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Old 07-17-2005, 06:59 PM
curtains curtains is offline
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Default Re: How to combat co-chipleader\'s perpetual minraising on the bubble?


I'm really confused what the exact question is. It sounds like everyone is talking about a bunch of generalities.
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Old 07-17-2005, 07:09 PM
elonkra elonkra is offline
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Default Re: How to combat co-chipleader\'s perpetual minraising on the bubble?

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I'm really confused what the exact question is. It sounds like everyone is talking about a bunch of generalities.

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May be my fault for not providing enough info, but since I'm new to 4-tabling, the only reads I had were that (1) co-chipleader was loose agressive (minibumping very often, not just the last three times I was on the BB); and (2) shorties were folding so much it seemed they were waiting for JJ+ to play.

My question is, I guess, a general one. When you're virtually guaranteed ITM on the bubble, when do you risk that in an attempt to keep your big stack (and, by extension, your chances of finishing first)?

I know there's not a black and white answer to this, as it's pretty much situation-dependent and I probably haven't provided enough details for a thorough analysis of how I should be acting, but I was looking for some general comments.
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:26 PM
introv introv is offline
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Default Re: How to combat co-chipleader\'s perpetual minraising on the bubble?

You mean a situation like this?

Seat 1: Villain (2065 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (2149 in chips)
Seat 5: Player (1786 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 50
Hero: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [4c Jd]
Player: folds
Villain: raises to 200
Hero: calls 100
----- FLOP ----- [2s 7s Ah]
Villain: bets 200
Hero: raises to 600
Villain: folds
Returned uncalled bets 400 to Hero
Hero: doesn't show hand
Hero collected 800 from Main pot

This is from a 6 player SNG so top 2 play. Villain has been min raising pretty much every hand. In these circumstances I usually fold a couple of times then, if nothing suitable for a reraise comes along, I'll call with position and try and outplay them on the flop. Works for me!
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: How to combat co-chipleader\'s perpetual minraising on the bubble?

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I'm tired of folding AJ. He's minibumped me on big blind 3 times in a row.

Blinds are at 100/200.
Stacks are at 5000 (villain), 4000 (me), 2000, and 1200.

To complicate things, the shortstacks are folding to him as well.

I welcome your comments, as I get bumped off my BB w/K7sooted.

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With both aj and k7s, call and see the flop. if it hits you (pair, draw, 2 overcards), play it aggressively. else fold.

I wouldnt push back preflop without aq+, TT+.
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