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Re: IVEY V RAYMER (3to1)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Have you looked at the counts 6 people are basically dead considering blinds and antes at this point and Ivey is second in chips. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Have you? 27 people left. Ivey has about 1/15th of the chips and you think he's 25% to win THE ENTIRE THING. Please. [/ QUOTE ] While slightly too high I don't think it is outrageous, especially in light of him destroying the final table when he won his bracelet earlier. My (wild) guess is that Ivey/Raymer/Matusow are each somewhere between 10% and 15% to win the whole thing. I think they will have a good chance to accumulate chips the closer to the final table we get. Of course the winner still has to be a luckbox. [/ QUOTE ] I think those are fine odds. That would make 3-1 a very bad bet. |
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Re: Mike Matusow Question
Perhaps his time in the slammer knocked some sense into him.
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Re: IVEY V RAYMER (3to1)
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From Tao poker blog: By the way, Mark from Centrebet.com emailed me his latest lines. Check them out. Phil Ivey was 25-1 to make the final table before the contest began. Raymer was 80-1. 2005 WSOP Winner: 3-1 Phil Ivey 5-1 Greg Raymer 6-1 Steve Dannenmann 6-1 Mike Matusow 10-1 Tex Barch 10-1 Andrew Black 15-1 Daniel Bergsdorf 15-1 Joe Hachem 15-1 Michael Kessler 15-1 Scott Lazar 20-1 Aaron Kanter 20-1 Minh Ly 20-1 Tim Phan 20-1 Tommy Vu 25-1 Bryant King 25-1 Brad Kondracki 25-1 Oskar Silow 25-1 Connor Tate 40-1 Joe Connor 40-1 Bernard Lee 40-1 Tom Sartori 50-1 Johnny Howard 50-1 Tiffany Williamson 80-1 Per Hildebrand 80-1 John McGrane 100-1 Shawn Sheikhan 150-1 Ayhan Alsancak [/ QUOTE ] 163.2% over-round [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Make the first 4 something like 9-1 and you have something like a fair book, in my opinion. Regards Mack |
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Re: IVEY V RAYMER (3to1)
Scott Lazar may have the most attractive odds. He has around 1/19th of the chips
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Re: IVEY V RAYMER (3to1)
At pinny right now:
Will Phil Ivey win the 2005 WSOP main event? 950 Yes +558 951 No -698 Will Greg Raymer win 2005 WSOP main event? 952 Yes +855 953 No -1135 Will Matusow win the main event? 956 Yes +675 957 No -850 |
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Re: WSOP Day 6: \"Official\" News, Results, and Discussion
Tough break for Phil and Greg. Neither has real good position on the other and Tiffany is at another table. I'd suspect they will both try and stay out of each other's way in the early going. This table better be the feature table, though.
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Re: WSOP Day 6: \"Official\" News, Results, and Discussion
Greg has done well so far on the feature espn table. He was on it on day 1 and moved his stack from 3500 to 50k. And he was on the table all day yesterday. I don't think he spent much time other than those 2 times at the feature table.
Hopefully he can keep things up. Ken |
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Re: WSOP Day 6: \"Official\" News, Results, and Discussion
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Tough break for Phil and Greg. Neither has real good position on the other and Tiffany is at another table. I'd suspect they will both try and stay out of each other's way in the early going. This table better be the feature table, though. [/ QUOTE ] I thought all tables at Binion's will be the "feature table", in the sense that all 3 tables will have the cameras etc. Can anyone confirm this or deny? |
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Re: IVEY V RAYMER (3to1)
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At pinny right now: Will Phil Ivey win the 2005 WSOP main event? 950 Yes +558 951 No -698 Will Greg Raymer win 2005 WSOP main event? 952 Yes +855 953 No -1135 Will Matusow win the main event? 956 Yes +675 957 No -850 [/ QUOTE ] Hi If someone put a gun to my head and made me play those odds I would back Raymer for 2 points and lay Ivey for 1 point, I think they got the range on Matusow. Regards Mack |
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Re: WSOP Day 6: \"Official\" News, Results, and Discussion
Anyone who whines about the Official post of the day should lie down and suck on their pacifier.
I was formatting a similar list before I saw this post. I calculated total chip counts by table when I was doing so [ QUOTE ] Mike Matusow 5,140,000 117 1 Michael Kessler 2,700,000 117 2 Shahram Sheikhan 310,000 117 3 Johnny Howard 730,000 117 4 Aaron Kanter 1,925,000 117 5 Tom Sartori 805,000 117 6 Conor Tate 1,265,000 117 7 Tiffany Williamsen 1,125,000 117 8 Brad Kondracki 3,160,000 117 9 Total chips $17,160,000 Fossilman 3,840,000 118 1 Tim Phan 1,575,000 118 2 Scott Lazar 3,025,000 118 3 Per Hildebrand 645,000 118 4 Ayhan Alsancak 225,000 118 5 Phil Ivey 4,635,000 118 6 Joseph Hachem 3,125,000 118 7 Andrew Black 2,090,000 118 8 Joe Connor 1,065,000 118 9 Total chips $20,225,000 John McGrane 575,000 129 1 Bernard Lee 710,000 129 2 Tommy Vu 1,870,000 129 3 Tex Barch 3,900,000 129 4 Bryant King 1,440,000 129 5 Daniel Bergsdorf 2,550,000 129 6 Oskar Silow 1,440,000 129 7 Steven Dannenmann 4,300,000 129 8 Minh Ly 2,050,000 129 9 Total chips $18,835,000 [/ QUOTE ] Sum of chips for all three tables $56,220,000. With 5619 entries, that's very close to the expected total of chips. Wasn't there some question about this at one point in the last week? Maybe it was on RGP I take it that they do not try to balance the tables as evenly as possible, as far as total chip counts? Anyone think that the extra $2M in chips available to table 118 is an advantage? Or will the players move enough so that this won't matter? |
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