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07-13-2005, 12:32 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Who cares how good u are. Move up when ur bankroll is big enough and down when its not. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this advice. I don't know why several posters think it is retarded. There isn't really that much difference between the levels so if you can beat one there is good chance you can beat the next. If nothing else it would be good practice. You are costing yourself a good amount of money if you would be able to beat the next level and don't move up. [/ QUOTE ] you've only slimly managed to not be the stupidest sounding person in this thread so far, and that's only because you didn't get here first. no, wait, the me too + new stupid thing = you stupidest so far. citanul [/ QUOTE ] I just laughed out loud...ouch. 
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07-13-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
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you've only slimly managed to not be the stupidest sounding person in this thread so far, and that's only because you didn't get here first. no, wait, the me too + new stupid thing = you stupidest so far. citanul [/ QUOTE ] Hey, can we get a moderator in this forum? Posts like this turn potentially solid threats into deteriorating flame wars that result in an excellent waste of space in the 2+2 archives. Come on cit, you can back yourself up a little better than this. There's some real discussion to be had here. And if you don't think so, then why post? Kings
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07-13-2005, 02:33 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
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you've only slimly managed to not be the stupidest sounding person in this thread so far, and that's only because you didn't get here first. no, wait, the me too + new stupid thing = you stupidest so far. citanul [/ QUOTE ] Now THIS, this is moderation! The citanul we love and missed in his absence. (and to the flamee, man, he ripped a few of my posts back in the day too) BL'
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07-13-2005, 12:37 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
just under 500 games, just over 43%
as i've been telling people, the time at which i played my games like that in bulk, the games were REALLY easy. having played a few games since then, i can vouch for them being harder. my ROI in those games since then is like 11 games played, -100% roi
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07-13-2005, 12:57 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
Moving up too soon is less wrong than moving down too late.
If you think your a winning player long term and can move down when it all turns south, your bankroll doesnt actually need to be anywhere near the 'solid' figure. Quick roll thoughts: Most people: 30-50 buy ins Raptor (to name one): 50-100 Me: 20 (but ONLY if you can drop down without any second thought if you run bad) As for ROI, your figure isnt that important. Your not going to be playing 10000 games to get it accurate, and if you wait 1000 games youve lost a lot of $ by not moving up sooner. As long as its in a 'winning range' of 10-30% over a couple of hundred, your prolly ready for the next level. Phill
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07-13-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
Only problem is it's hugely -ev to have to keep dropping down in levels, which will happen if you use a 20 buyin BR. A bad run might see a 109er have to drop to the 33s or worse???
Having to keep changing buyins even daily doesn't allow you to get into a rhythm either. Saving 40-50 buyins for the next level also allows you to mature (build on your skills) at the current level. If you are a $22er-$33er who is skilled enough to play the 109s it won't take long to save up a 40 buyin BR anyway. Moving up as soon as possible is fine, but there are disadvantages. Operating on a smaller BR than you can afford is just -ev.
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07-13-2005, 01:15 PM
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Re: How bad were you crushing the 11\'s when you moved up to the 22s?
I agree its not a perfect system, but its a system. Its also one i dont use as is.
But if im running bad i do drop to 10s. If im running good i hit the 30s. I generally play the 20s though. If/when i get to the 100 level, im sure as fook gonna have a solid roll. But 10s and 20s run so close that its prolly more profitable to take that shot rather than play another 100 10s. Big rolls is a long term thing. Small rolls is short term. It also becomes much less correct beyond the 22/33 switch.
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