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Let go of the flush draw?
Any way to let go of this on the turn? Do I have the odds to call?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 24.50 BB No real reads on anyone. |
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Re: Let go of the flush draw?
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Any way to let go of this on the turn? Do I have the odds to call? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 24.50 BB No real reads on anyone. [/ QUOTE ] After the turn it looks like there is a set somewhere (UTG w/TT). Or just two big pairs. Anyways. On the first turn call, you are getting 11.5:1. 2nd turn call-8.5:1 3rd turn call-21:1 Lets make the assumption that you know the turn will be capped in advance. You pay 4 BB's, for an immediate reward of 18 BB's. 18:4 is 4.5:1. This is enough if you assume you have 9 outs. Don't forget that you have implied odds, and the turn being capped is a not so common occurence. Usually someone will slow down and the overlay is more than enough. |
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Re: Let go of the flush draw?
i don't like the flop raise
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Re: Let go of the flush draw?
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Lets make the assumption that you know the turn will be capped in advance. You pay 4 BB's, for an immediate reward of 18 BB's. 18:4 is 4.5:1. This is enough if you assume you have 9 outs. [/ QUOTE ] That is exactly what I was going to say. Lost Wages |
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Re: Let go of the flush draw?
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[ QUOTE ] Any way to let go of this on the turn? Do I have the odds to call? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 24.50 BB No real reads on anyone. [/ QUOTE ] After the turn it looks like there is a set somewhere (UTG w/TT). Or just two big pairs. Anyways. On the first turn call, you are getting 11.5:1. 2nd turn call-8.5:1 3rd turn call-21:1 Lets make the assumption that you know the turn will be capped in advance. You pay 4 BB's, for an immediate reward of 18 BB's. 18:4 is 4.5:1. This is enough if you assume you have 9 outs. Don't forget that you have implied odds, and the turn being capped is a not so common occurence. Usually someone will slow down and the overlay is more than enough. [/ QUOTE ] If there is set out there, he obviously doesn't have 9 clean outs, but nevertheless, there was noplac for a fold inthis hand. |
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Re: Let go of the flush draw?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Any way to let go of this on the turn? Do I have the odds to call? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 24.50 BB No real reads on anyone. [/ QUOTE ] After the turn it looks like there is a set somewhere (UTG w/TT). Or just two big pairs. Anyways. On the first turn call, you are getting 11.5:1. 2nd turn call-8.5:1 3rd turn call-21:1 Lets make the assumption that you know the turn will be capped in advance. You pay 4 BB's, for an immediate reward of 18 BB's. 18:4 is 4.5:1. This is enough if you assume you have 9 outs. Don't forget that you have implied odds, and the turn being capped is a not so common occurence. Usually someone will slow down and the overlay is more than enough. [/ QUOTE ] If there is set out there, he obviously doesn't have 9 clean outs, but nevertheless, there was noplac for a fold inthis hand. [/ QUOTE ] My post was too long (so I left this out), but I hoped that everyone could assume that there wouldn't always be a set out there. This means that we have somewhere between 7-9 outs, depending on their range of hands. Still, it's pretty close with implied odds with two aggressive opponents, assuming someone has a set. |
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