"I Wanna See That Hand" at MGM Las Vegas

[AKQJ10]

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...I plan to call out the person asking to see the cards by asking him to first explain to me who it is he thinks I am colluding with or how I am cheating.

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I hope you get better results at whatever limits you play than I've gotten at the tiny limits I play. I hope you get a better response, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[chiachu]

i played the 4/8 at the mgm june 19-22 and didnt encounter this behavior.

On a side note, just curious if i played with any 2+2's while i was there. i was the young asian guy with a gray sweater and an ipod.

[llcoolez]

I played with you a couple of times. I remember you were on a list for a 4-8 game one night and they opened a new table, but some dude who didn't get called sat down instead and screwed you out of a seat so they had to put you back on the list, right?

I was the guy wearing the Nike One hat, usually playing 3-6 and 4-8.

[chiachu]

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I played with you a couple of times. I remember you were on a list for a 4-8 game one night and they opened a new table, but some dude who didn't get called sat down instead and screwed you out of a seat so they had to put you back on the list, right?

I was the guy wearing the Nike One hat, usually playing 3-6 and 4-8.

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haha yea that was me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

i dont recall a nike one hat... but then again im terrible with recalling what people were wearing and such [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

anything else i might remember? did we ever talk? or any notable hands we were involved in?

[TripleH68]

Funny you mention MGM. I had to sit through a lengthy discussion about this topic while sitting in a 4-8 game a couple weeks ago. It was nauseating.

Can everybody just stop with this?

[bernie]

Every room I've been in, if you're dealt into a hand, you can call to see a hand at showdown regardless of whether you make it to showdown.

Don't take it so personal.

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[budman]

I was playing at Foxwoods on Saturday. At the table next to mine there was a big commotion. Apparently two people had been involved in a hand and had been pushing back and forth(with other players in the hand also). They raised back and forth on the river until it was heads up. One player tried to muck his cards but a player who was not involved asked to see his cards.

Naturally, he had crap and was accused of colluding with the other player. They put up a fight, but the floor removed the mucking player from the game.

I recognized them both as card room sleazebags and angle shooters, but did not associate them together.

This was one case where the rule proved it is worth whatever trouble it causes when used improperly.

[LoosenUp]

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Naturally, he had crap and was accused of colluding with the other player. They put up a fight, but the floor removed the mucking player from the game.

I recognized them both as card room sleazebags and angle shooters, but did not associate them together.



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One point for the good guys, great to hear.

[lastsamurai]

If you think these guys are playing partners you could always call the floor and ask to see the hand. if they pass chips to each other that is a valid sign... There are teams of cheaters out there in the poker world..online and card rooms.. just make sure if you catch them you call the floorman.

this is a letter i wrote to pokerstars in a SNG [ QUOTE ]

pokerstars cheater part II

--- PokerStars Support <support@pokerstars.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your patience while we completed our
> review of the accounts
> of 'pok*laiguy' and 'jad*408'. We found evidence of
> tournament collusion in
> the form of 'soft playing.' These players appear to
> be friends, but they
> did not seem willing to eliminate each other from
> the tournaments they play
> together. Many players are not aware that 'soft
> playing' is against our
> tournament rules, however you should play as hard
> against a good friend as
> you would a total stranger. We found no evidence of
> other forms of
> collusion such as chip dumping, or sharing card
> information.
>
> Due to this 'soft playing' they have been
> disqualified from a tournament on
> our site, and we have now made them aware of our
> tournament rules. They
> will no longer be permitted to play on our real
> money tables together. They
> have also been warned that any future infractions of
> our tournament rules
> will result in the permanent closure of their
> accounts.
>
> Thank you for again for bringing these players to
> our attention, and doing
> your part to protect the integrity of our games.
> Please let us know anytime
> you have questions or concerns.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joanne
> PokerStars Support Team
>



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