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Old 06-22-2005, 08:10 AM
ToneLoc ToneLoc is offline
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Default Re: What is the catch to Eurobet\'s single-deck blackjack?

Excuse my BJ noob question, but I though the player had an edge off the top in single deck, am I mistaken?!
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: What is the catch to Eurobet\'s single-deck blackjack?

I don't know about any specific single deck game, but I can pretty much guarantee they either change the rules or they change the payouts.

If a blackjack only pays 6:5 instead of 3:2, your EV is less. If they don't let you double on a split, your EV is lower, etc. So, except in the rare case where the casino is being run by idiots, the expected value of a bet is always less than the bet regardless of the game. If you don't know EXACTLY why you have an edge, you probably don't have an edge.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: What is the catch to Eurobet\'s single-deck blackjack?

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I though the player had an edge off the top in single deck

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the way you phrased this sentence, you presumably aren't aware at all how specific playing conditions (besides # of decks) affect the house edge.

the classic rules for the downtown vegas single deck game (which is fading away quickly) are dealer hits soft 17, double any two cards, NO double after split and NO late surrender. this yields a house advantage of about 0.18%. yet even though this setup was mathematically profitable, the presence and paranoia of red-chip counters proved too close for comfort and now pretty much all the casinos have switched to double deck except for the Western (who will kick you out for trying to bet more than $25).

the "best" single deck game in the US is probably at Barona Valley Ranch near San Diego. with double after split and late surrender, the house edge is whittled down to about 0.01-0.02%, but technically the casino STILL has the advantage in the long run. and with minimum bet $100 and maximum bet $3000, both basic strategy flat bettors and aggressive and heavily bankrolled spread counters would have a tough time beating this game significantly.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: What is the catch to Eurobet\'s single-deck blackjack?

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the "best" single deck game in the US is probably at Barona Valley Ranch near San Diego. with double after split and late surrender, the house edge is whittled down to about 0.01-0.02%, but technically the casino STILL has the advantage in the long run. and with minimum bet $100 and maximum bet $3000, both basic strategy flat bettors and aggressive and heavily bankrolled spread counters would have a tough time beating this game significantly.

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A SD BJ game with 0.02% HA and 30x spread can be beatan like a red headed stepchild. Assuming of course you don't get much heat.
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: What is the catch to Eurobet\'s single-deck blackjack?

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the way you phrased this sentence, you presumably aren't aware at all how specific playing conditions (besides # of decks) affect the house edge.

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I know that, but true , the specific rules for the game were not described, so I assumed they were good...

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the "best" single deck game in the US is probably at Barona Valley Ranch near San Diego. with double after split and late surrender, the house edge is whittled down to about 0.01-0.02%

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The advantage you quote is for a basic card counter right? IF that is the case it is probably "easy" to beat the hell out of that game even flat betting w strategy change? Or am I missing something here?

Thx 4 ur comments.

J.
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