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06-20-2005, 12:50 AM
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Re: Stars 500k hand disagreement between me and Raptor
22 is a marginal favorite against any 2 random cards. He has nothing to lose.
I don't see how you could fold a pair if you are short stacked versus a (perceived) complete maniac in this situation. 
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06-20-2005, 12:52 AM
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Re: Stars 500k hand disagreement between me and Raptor
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22 is a marginal favorite against any 2 random cards. He has nothing to lose. I don't see how you could fold a pair if you are short stacked versus a (perceived) complete maniac in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] how can you even say this? how are you short stacked with 9.5x the BB? im curious as to how that works. im not going to CALL for a GUARANTEED race or worse. period. ever if i have 9.5x the bb. its just awful. AWFUL i tell you. oh, and he has more than nothing to lose. he has his tournament on the line by making a terrible call. fold. please. holla
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#5
06-20-2005, 12:53 AM
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Re: Stars 500k hand disagreement between me and Raptor
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22 is a marginal favorite against any 2 random cards. He has nothing to lose. I don't see how you could fold a pair if you are short stacked versus a (perceived) complete maniac in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] The point is in a tournament situation its not about accumalating chips, it is about winning the most money. By simply not playing a hand the hero will move up spots over time and be able to make +$EV decision later on as well. In tournament play near the bubble, on the bubble, and once in the money you give up EV everytime you are all in, becuase you risk being busted. To make putting money into the pot correct, you must gain a significant amount of $EV to overcome this. Llyod's arguement is basically discounting this fact by assigning only $13k of equity for folding. The hero in this spot has much much much more than 13k in equity if he folds every hand from now on. -SmileyEH
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#6
06-20-2005, 12:59 AM
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Re: Stars 500k hand disagreement between me and Raptor
Question: I know the hero won the hand and finished 5th, but was he part of the chop? How much did he take home?
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#8
06-20-2005, 01:05 AM
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Re: Stars 500k hand disagreement between me and Raptor
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 is a marginal favorite against any 2 random cards. He has nothing to lose. I don't see how you could fold a pair if you are short stacked versus a (perceived) complete maniac in this situation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The point is in a tournament situation its not about accumalating chips, it is about winning the most money. By simply not playing a hand the hero will move up spots over time and be able to make +$EV decision later on as well. In tournament play near the bubble, on the bubble, and once in the money you give up EV everytime you are all in, becuase you risk being busted. To make putting money into the pot correct, you must gain a significant amount of $EV to overcome this. Llyod's arguement is basically discounting this fact by assigning only $13k of equity for folding. The hero in this spot has much much much more than 13k in equity if he folds every hand from now on. -SmileyEH [/ QUOTE ] let me first start by saying i agree with a fold, though i totally disagree with yer reasoning behind it. i dont advocate folding yer way up the pay ladder at all. the money is in the top 3-4 spots for a chop, or first. i just simply treat calling for a race as the plague, and i try to avoid it at all costs. i will push all day as a decided underdog, but that is because of my good friend fold equity. ill take my chances waiting out an orbit or 2 before i make a call here with K10.. 22.. or.. Q6? holla
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