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Old 06-09-2005, 06:37 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Absolutely ridiculous. I was called down for this a lot last year at various casinos in vegas.

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I think it's more ridiculous to get called for it just one time and then keep on doing it.
Do you have some emotional control issues or something?
Being told once that this is not allowed should be enough.
If you really can't control yourself from doing this after just one warning then you probably don't have the discipline to play winning poker either.



FWIW - I like the rule and hope I get to enforce it against as many of my opponents as possible.
I also don't think all of the dancing and taunting of the Matusow-type variety should be tolerated either and anyone who does this should receive a time-out also.
If I feel it's over-the-line then I'll call the floor-person over for them too if I think that having that person miss 10 minutes or more will be an advantage for me (if they are tilting away and I WANT them at the table then I won't try to get a time-out for them of course).
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

I don't think this is anything new.

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Old 06-09-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

I think it should have some context. If I say "Hey, you over there with the stupid hat, you're a [censored] idiot", then that should get a penalty. If I say "Man, I'm [censored] tired", that should be overlooked.

Just banning a 'word' is stupid. Context is everything.
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

what if somebody has tourette syndrome?
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

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A little vid over at cardplayer.com about the WSOP rule. In short, if you say the F-word at the table, the floorperson can issue you a 10 minute suspension.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_videos/

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This is typical over the top political correctness, some people seem to think that it should be an individuals right to never be offended. But that is ofcourse stupid because a person decides what offends them, vegetarians should not be allowed to have meateaters leave a restaurant because they are offended.

Freedom of speech over freedom to not be offended. Dumb rule.
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:46 PM
Kevmath Kevmath is offline
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

From Pokerwire.com:

Commotion at table 118
David Levi was in a hand when his opponent stuck his thumb up to indicate a raise. He then proceeded to make a string bet. Levi asked what the thumb ment, saying that where's he's from it means the same as flashing the middle finger. His opponent then indicated that the middle finger means the f-word, and both players repeated the word several times. Both Levi and his opponent got a 10-minute time out.

Then, much to everyone's astonishment, Syracuse Chris Tsiprailidis got up from the table to confront the opponent and he ended up in a full-on confrontation with Paul Darden who was between the opponent and Syracuse Chris. The floorman called security and Darden's buddy Cody calmed him down. Syracuse Chris left the room.

Kevin...
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:29 PM
BruinEric BruinEric is offline
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

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This is typical over the top political correctness, some people seem to think that it should be an individuals right to never be offended. But that is ofcourse stupid because a person decides what offends them, vegetarians should not be allowed to have meateaters leave a restaurant because they are offended.

Freedom of speech over freedom to not be offended. Dumb rule.

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Not to step on your stump speech or anything, but last time I checked, the Rio is private property and the World Series of Poker is a private tournament.

Neither the Rio nor the WSOP are infringing on a player's right to free speech, which can be exercised on public property or on the player's personal property.

A player who does not like the rules of the WSOP certainly also has the right to setup his own tournament with his own rules (or lack thereof) and enforce them accordingly.

The WSOP "regulates" plenty of speech. For example, players are bound by their statements to "call" and "raise." Players may also not verbally collude with others. Does a player have "freedom of speech" to whisper the ranks of his hole cards to just one player in the hand?

There are plenty of valid criticisms of this rule, but invoking "freedom of speech" is flimsy in this case.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:34 PM
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what if somebody has tourette syndrome?

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Then I'd have to go out on a limb here and say they're F'd.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:38 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

additionally...these are just general rules of etiquette that they are trying to enforce.

They are not saying that you don't have a right to say that you think flag-burning should be legal or that the earth is flat. They are saying that in a large-event with a bunch of adults they expect the particpants to actually behave like adults.


The line has to be drawn somewhere.
And from what I've seen on TV I suspect the participants have pushing and pushing that line farther and farther.


It's a big-time TV event now.
The TV coverage has helped poker become more acceptable because it no longer has the reputation of being a game played by mostly drunken degenerates in dingy, cigar-smoke filled rooms.
Why would we want them to actually ALLOW everyone to drop f-bombs all over the place thus making the game look LESS respectable?

Main-streaming the game is good.
Letting the Hellmuth-babies act like little whiny-pricks is bad.
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Old 06-09-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: No F-Word at WSOP

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Main-streaming the game is good.
Letting the Hellmuth-babies act like little whiny-pricks is bad.

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agreed - and it's not the first sport to enforce ettique

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