Drawing to overcards on the flop? Just a check-up.

barry.egan · #1 06-03-2005, 11:52 AM

all i was really trying to get at was that in essence you're drawing to 2 outs (the two non-spade queens) which when hit have a chance of being either no good or sucked out on the river.

steveyz · #2 06-03-2005, 12:13 PM

With the pair of 7s, you are drawing to 2 outs in the best possible scenario and are very likely to be drawing to 1 out or to runners.

With AQ, you are drawing 2 outs if one of your opponents has a flush draw and someone else has A8/A3/A2, which will be the case some of the time, but no where near the majority of the time. Many other times you will have 4 or 6 outs, which is not the case with 77.

Not to mention a flop of JTx is much more likely to have hit limpers than a 832 flop.

barry.egan · #3 06-03-2005, 12:35 PM

You're absolutly right. I think I'm just pushing for an example to push this more to a fold and mine isn't very close. Thanks for indulging me at least.

I do still think it's a fold. With one of the in between callers gone it might move it closer but the the overlay just doesn't seem enough to push it in this spot.