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Old 05-22-2005, 03:43 PM
tlnini tlnini is offline
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Default AKo, is this too weak??

Villian just sat down, his first hand, so have no read. The cap on the flop really puzzled me. Appreciate any suggestion. Tks

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villian raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villian caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, Hero?? -- Is it too weak to check here considering the flop action?

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:16 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

I'd bet the river.

Check this out, similar thing just happened.If anything, I was too weak and should have popped the turn:

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $7.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (10.80 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls $6 (All-In), UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:25 PM
Lurker4 Lurker4 is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

I'd bet this river after its checked to me. Villain could have gone overboard on the flop w/a weaker A. Had the river been a diamond and it been checked to me, I'd check behind.
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:29 PM
MattC MattC is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

yes, when deciding whether to check behind or bet a flop always think about how many hands it could have completed. If it's a card that completes a straight and a flush, then you should check, if its a complete brick then you are probably better of betting.

of course these are extreme situations, and sometimes its a lot closer then these two, however, i think thats what you want to think about when the situation arises.
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:51 PM
MisterKing MisterKing is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

Anyone flat calling the flop raise to get one in on a non-diamond turn? I suspect there are good reasons not to do this, but I'm curious what people have to say about that option...
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:01 PM
tytygoodnuts tytygoodnuts is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

[ QUOTE ]
Anyone flat calling the flop raise to get one in on a non-diamond turn? I suspect there are good reasons not to do this, but I'm curious what people have to say about that option...

[/ QUOTE ]

You would only do this if the pot was super large and multiway and you couldn't protect your hand on the flop with a raise. You would call the flop to incourage the bettor to bet into you allowing you to protect your hand on the turn.
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:25 PM
MisterKing MisterKing is offline
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Default Re: AKo, is this too weak??

Gotcha... that's what I was thinking but wasn't 1000% sure.
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