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Postflop questions
MP1 was 61/5 over 30 hands.
Do you think the flop call was weak? MP1 could have almost anything. What about the turn raise? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (5.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls. River: (9.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 13.16 BB |
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Re: Postflop questions
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MP1 was 61/5 over 30 hands. Do you think the flop call was weak? MP1 could have almost anything. What about the turn raise? Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (5.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls. River: (9.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 13.16 BB [/ QUOTE ] With this kind of vpip, he looks the kind of dummy who plays any ace. IMO you have maybe 3-4 outs on the flop, as when he leads the flop, he may very well have you reverse dominated or worse, a queen. I think you fold the flop. |
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Re: Postflop questions
Can he really have anything on the flop? Does he frequently bet out with nothing or weak draws/low pairs? If so, I like a raise better than a call. I'd rather get it headsup with him and force out UTG+1.
Turn and river looks fine. |
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Re: Postflop questions
Fold the flop.
Do you see why? If not, I'll explain. Adam |
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Re: Postflop questions
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Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Depending on this players postflop tendencies, this could be pretty terrible. |
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Re: Postflop questions
explain
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Re: Postflop questions
Well, the pot is pretty small....
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Re: Postflop questions
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[ QUOTE ] Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Depending on this players postflop tendencies, this could be pretty terrible. [/ QUOTE ] Perahps, but... this player's postflop tendencies are unknown. All we know is that he plays more than half his hands and only raises 5% preflop. If I'm going to lean one way or the other, the villain's 5% PFR suggests that he isn't overly aggressive. Therefore, we should give some credit to his flop bet (especially leading into a preflop raiser). By my calculations, calling the flop is NEUTRAL EV at best. Adam |
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Calculations
...further to my above post:
Give about 2.5 outs for three aces. Give 1.5 outs for backdoor flush draw. Give 1 out for hitting a ten. That's about 5 outs. Getting 8:1 money is NEUTRAL EV. (Further Hero isn't even closing the action. Even getting 9:1 if UTG+1 calls isn't enough, but getting check-raised by him would suck). We also have the reverse implied odds of hitting a Ten and losing still. Adam |
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Re: Postflop questions
This is a fold or raise situation. A call is not the correct play on the flop. As mentioned above its about a 4.5-5 out hand value here. You break just about even getting 8-1. A call here though does not protect your over card outs. You have a weak draw that plays best heads up. Since its a raised pot preflop I would prefer not folding therefore I think you should raise the flop, knock out the player behind you and play heads up. This could also buy you a free card on the turn if you want it.
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