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Is it PC to check this turn?
Neither of my opponents are exceptional in any catetogories... like, 38/5/1.5 types.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks. My logic was: -Check raise stings -The only cards that I really dont want to see are Qs and Ts. -I just lost my kicker, so its not like ace-rag is paying me anymore Too weak? |
#2
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
I would bet and fold to a raise, I think. You made 3 good points, but at 2/4 on Party it's simply having too much respect for your opponents to expect that you don't have the best hand a majority of the time here.
Sometimes, you're going to run into a J, and sometimes it's going to be a split pot. Even if you split the pot with another A, if you get two calls that's an extra 0.5BB for you. |
#3
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
bet this turn. you may miss bets from a Q who will pay you off.
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
I don't like it. I would have bet. Against two players there is a good chance someone is drawing quite live against you and you have to charge them.
If it were heads up I could see more value to checking to induce a river bluff. |
#5
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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I would bet and fold to a raise [/ QUOTE ] The only problem with this is... when I bet, and am checkraised, the pot is laying be about 8-1. If I have 6 clean outs, I need 6.8-1. But, I almost certainly don't have 6 clean outs. What do you think a good estimate is? Its close at about 5 (8.2-1) |
#6
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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I don't like it. I would have bet. Against two players there is a good chance someone is drawing quite live against you and you have to charge them. If it were heads up I could see more value to checking to induce a river bluff. [/ QUOTE ] What is your plan if checkraised? |
#7
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like it. I would have bet. Against two players there is a good chance someone is drawing quite live against you and you have to charge them. If it were heads up I could see more value to checking to induce a river bluff. [/ QUOTE ] What is your plan if checkraised? [/ QUOTE ] The pot is small and I need to be drawing live a huge percentage of the time to make a call profitable, so I don't have a problem folding to it. I would fold. |
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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you may miss bets from a Q who will pay you off. [/ QUOTE ] There's no debating that. The crux of the argument is: Are the bets missed from someone drawing (with a K or T) or calling down with a Q worth giving up, for fear of being raised by someone holding a jack, that is giving you a free card. (note: it is plenty possible for me to live to a jack. Hands like J8s are in their range. If there range were only Jack + broadway, then I'm a lot less live when Im checkraised) |
#9
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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I would fold. [/ QUOTE ] This was where I would have been confused... how many outs, on average, do you think I have? (I noted in another post, that hands like J8s, J9s, J7s are in their range) |
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Re: Is it PC to check this turn?
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[ QUOTE ] I would fold. [/ QUOTE ] This was where I would have been confused... how many outs, on average, do you think I have? (I noted in another post, that hands like J8s, J9s, J7s are in their range) [/ QUOTE ] Something a little more than 4, about 5 I guess. I think it really depends on how much of the time you'll actually be ahead, and unless they are quite tricky I think that's very small. |
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