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too much for too little?
First hand at table, playerview hasnt loaded yet and no notes on button.
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.33 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls. River: (7.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>... Final Pot: 8.33 BB I called the flop planning to checkraise bluff/semibluff any straight draw or heart. I was going to checkraise a jack and had not quite made up my mind about a king. Obviously the river is automatic but I was pretty unsure about the rest of the hand. -Brad |
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Re: too much for too little?
I would really like this line if you had some read on the villain in this hand. Against a random Party $15 player (read:donkey), I don't know how successful you are going to be.
As an aside, I think I'm becoming too dependant on PlayerView. I'm beginning to get uncomfortable the two hands before it loads. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] - Jags |
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Re: too much for too little?
I agree - I like the play, but I like it better against someone I know who has a propensity to fold.
But if it didn't work I am sure it got you some action on later streets. |
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Re: too much for too little?
I generally c/r this type of flop. and then lead the turn if he calls. I think it's a slightly cheaper way of accomplishing the same thing.
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Re: too much for too little?
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I generally c/r this type of flop. and then lead the turn if he calls. I think it's a slightly cheaper way of accomplishing the same thing. [/ QUOTE ] Are you then laying it down if he calls and pops you back on the turn? |
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Re: too much for too little?
Serious question...
If you have a decent feel that your KJ is the best hand, then I think you should definitely play it as such. But do you really think it's necessary to so heavily contest such a small pot in a full game? In other words, will this make or break you in the Party 15 games? I have to admit, I'll make my stands, but I don't always try to run an unimproved KJ through a stealer like poop through a goose. Many stealers would have ace/type hands that would've made a pair on this board or a straight draw which they are not folding to. Again, I make my stands. I'll even sometimes bet or check/raise a KJ on an ace-high flop. But usually when I think I could have the best hand. Otherwise, I tend not to sweat the small pots in a full game. Do you think I'm giving up too much in these Party games? |
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Re: too much for too little?
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Are you then laying it down if he calls and pops you back on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] This is the reason I favor waiting for the turn card in a spot like this. It "defines" your hand more clearly in your opponents eyes and leaves less room for him to get fancy without a real hand. -Brad |
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Re: too much for too little?
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Serious question... If you have a decent feel that your KJ is the best hand, then I think you should definitely play it as such. But do you really think it's necessary to so heavily contest such a small pot in a full game? In other words, will this make or break you in the Party 15 games? I have to admit, I'll make my stands, but I don't always try to run an unimproved KJ through a stealer like poop through a goose. Many stealers would have ace/type hands that would've made a pair on this board or a straight draw which they are not folding to. Again, I make my stands. I'll even sometimes bet or check/raise a KJ on an ace-high flop. But usually when I think I could have the best hand. Otherwise, I tend not to sweat the small pots in a full game. Do you think I'm giving up too much in these Party games? [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. I agree. You certainly can't get bullied out of every pot but going apeshit is also not good. |
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Re: too much for too little?
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But do you really think it's necessary to so heavily contest such a small pot in a full game? [/ QUOTE ] This is basically the question I was trying to ask. Not really small pots in general but situations like this where your hand may be best, but it is far more likely a small dog; however, the texture of the board allows for a number of powerful bluffs that your opponent would be hard-pressed to call down with A high unimproved or possibly a baby pair. -Brad |
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Re: too much for too little?
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but going apeshit is also not good. [/ QUOTE ] Given the texture of the board is this really apeshit? Im not being sarcastic im seriously asking... -Brad |
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