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Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
Live 4/8 game in NYC. UTG is a young Asian guy who seems okay but who is definitely on tilt. His hands have been getting cracked all night long. MP is a 2+2er and a very good player. LP is a loose, calling station.
I'm in the BB when UTG posts a live straddle. I'm dealt 7h9h. MP calls the two bets, as does the player to her left, and the LP player. I call the extra bet and now UTG raises. We all call and on one hand I'm thinking, "Now we've got a nice multiway pot for three bets" and, on the other, "What am I doing here with this stupid hand?" Four of us see the flop. 3 6 8 rainbow. UTG is reaching for his chips and I check. UTG bets, we all call. Turn: 10 I start reaching for chips and UTG bets out of turn. I say, "Wait a sec, I haven't acted yet." I bet and everyone calls. River: J I lead, UTG calls with a sigh, 2+2er folds, guy to her left folds, LP calls. MHIG. On the flop I could have led out. I could have checkraised. Who does which and why? Did I miss an opportunity to checkraise the turn? Or was my line the right one? Comments please. |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
I'd checkraise, especially since UTG was ready to bet, you could trap anyone who calls UTGs bet for 2 bets with the nuts.
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
Yeah, you missed an opportunity to check-raise the turn. With UTG looking to be out there, and on tilt, it's likely he was going to bet the turn if he didn't encounter resistence, so I don't so much like a check-raise on the flop, though it can be debated.
Next time, let him bet out of turn and get yourself a few more BBs. -d |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
flop's ok, but not checkraising the turn is like burning money.
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
I would have checkraised the field on the flop for value.Since you didn't...On the turn when you see him betting out of turn b/f you acted, I would have just acted like it didn't matter cause I was checking. Then checkraise the whole goddamn field. The other thing is...why we're you reaching for chips in the first place. This checkraise seems like a no-brainer.
Jeff |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
you need to c/r the turn cuz of the fact everyone will prolly call the UTG's bet and then will call ur raise. mo money, my friend
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
[ QUOTE ]
I start reaching for chips and UTG bets out of turn. I say, "Wait a sec, I haven't acted yet." I bet and everyone calls. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Part of playing live games is using this stuff to your advantage. I was playing at the mirage last week and flopped top set from UTG after raising preflop. BB bets, before I can do anything an MP player behind me announces "raise." I call, he raises, 3 calls, I 3 bet. You have to take advantage of that kind of thing when it arises. |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
Checkraise the frop, checkraise the turn. For the love of all that is good and holy checkraise the turn given how the action played out.
And the MP coldcall of a straddle is atrocious. |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
DEF. C/R the turn. you could of gotten more money out of all those players.
-sinful |
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Re: Live 4/8 hand. Missed opportunity?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I start reaching for chips and UTG bets out of turn. I say, "Wait a sec, I haven't acted yet." I bet and everyone calls. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Part of playing live games is using this stuff to your advantage. I was playing at the mirage last week and flopped top set from UTG after raising preflop. BB bets, before I can do anything an MP player behind me announces "raise." I call, he raises, 3 calls, I 3 bet. You have to take advantage of that kind of thing when it arises. [/ QUOTE ] Very good comment, Evan, and one that I agree with. If I could reply this hand I would definitely c/r the turn. It just happened so quickly that I didn't slow down for a second to use my head before I thew the chips out. |
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