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Old 12-10-2004, 07:11 PM
TheLance TheLance is offline
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Default KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

... I don't think this was covered in SSH...

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed)

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.
(wishing I had a read on button, but I got nothing)

Turn: (11.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (16.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 28.20 BB

Is there a gas leak in this virtual card room?
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:18 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

Why didn't you keep putting in bets on the flop? Only 2 hands beat you right now, and there are lots of dead draws out there right now that will call bets on the flop (hearts and gutshots). Same thing applies to the turn. There are 5 players and you let it go through for just one bet when you almost surely have the best hand...

Brad
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:23 PM
Douper Douper is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

and the two hands that do beat you would have 3-bet preflop (one would hope)
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:30 PM
Piiop Piiop is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

You know you have a full house, right?

You forgot to reraise the flop and you forgot to bet the turn.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:31 PM
Piiop Piiop is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

AK, AA, A9, A2
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:34 PM
kgrad5 kgrad5 is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

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AK, AA, A9, A2

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he was talking about the flop.. only 2 hands beat him on the flop.. AK and AA (1 combination of each only)
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

roger, my bad
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:58 PM
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Default Raise! Raise! Raise!

This looks like one of those hands where you have to put as much money as possible into the pot, got scared, and lost anyway. Otherwise, you wouldn't be wondering whether you played it right or not, because if you did win you'd know that should've been more aggressive.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:06 PM
Yobz Yobz is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

Your "bet/raise" button should have been checked the whole time, unless of course it gets capped when you can only call, thats the only time its ok to just call
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:13 PM
Ajax410 Ajax410 is offline
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Default Re: KK, KAA flop, 5 call down.

I don't get the problem. You, TheLance, flopped a full house. It is not a roomy house, spacious house, empty house, or beige house with pink shudders - it is a full house.

This means that you will make all men tremble in fear when you bet. You will laugh at their futile efforts at online poker success as you rake in the pot. You will pillage their feeble bankrolls and ravage their women.

If somebody outdrew you with A9 or A2, you will have to put your visions of grandeur on hold for awhile - but not for long - since in order to do that, they would have had to call two cold with A9 or A2.

In sum, raise. Every time. If there is an instance in this hand where raising is not the best option, I for one can't see it.

Alex
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