am i cheating?

[Stew]

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You are using information to which you are not entitled against the other players in the game. That fits my definition of cheating, but others may disagree. Would you want it done to you?

You should either tell the dealer or a floor person about this. Away from the table.

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So, if this occured during the course of playing BlackJack, would it be cheating (assume it's single or double-deck).

[Thythe]

Long answer yes with an if, short answer no with a but.

[CORed]

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So, if this occured during the course of playing BlackJack, would it be cheating (assume it's single or double-deck).

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I remember reading in one of my Blackjack books that there was a case in Nevada where a casino caught a player taking advantage of a dealer who was flashing hole cards. The player was prosecuted for cheating and the judge dismissed the charge, ruling that it was the dealer's responsibility to protect the hole card and that the player was not violating the state cheating statutes by using the information. OTOH, I doubt that the player won enough at the blackjack table to pay his attorney's fees.

[Andy B]

I don't particularly have ethical problems with people using dealer carelessness against the house. I do have a problem with people using dealer carelessness against other players in a poker game. It isn't their fault that the dealer is giving this guy information. In the blackjack case, it is absolutely the house's fault that dealer is incompetent.

[Malcom Reynolds]

Shuffle tracking in Blackjack isn't considered cheating, although casinos will bar you if they think you are counting cards or using anything to give you an edge. All of this stuff is not illegal in Nevada so long as you are not colluding with the dealer. A player may use any information at their disposal to make a decision.

In poker I think it's unethical/cheating to use this to your advantage, and should talk to the dealer/floor person discreetly about it.