AKo against an ultra-tight UTG raise

[paperboyNC]

UTG+1 is 20/3/0.81. He has only raised pre-flop 4 times in 144 hands. So I don't want to 3-bet, but if he has QQ or JJ I have a lot of outs. thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.70 BB

[A_C_Slater]

If he could only have AA-JJ or AK then you should fold the flop. You don't have odds to draw to your six possibly dirty outs. Or you're drawing to a split.

[Borodog]

3-bet preflop. 144 hands is nowhere near enough of a read to do this.

[brazilio]

I play it the same. The 3-bet preflop is completely without value against the pfr, and the BB coming along isn't a horrible proposition.

[Borodog]

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I play it the same. The 3-bet preflop is completely without value against the pfr, and the BB coming along isn't a horrible proposition.

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There are 5 players to Hero's left and he has AK. Three. Bet.

[paperboyNC]

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There are 5 players to Hero's left and he has AK. Three. Bet.

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If his range is JJ-AA, AK, shouldn't I fold instead?

Even though you have only 144 hands, he seems tight. Lets say his raising ranges is a bit looser than what you said --AA-TT, and AK or AQ. Given that you have AK:

1. There are 6 combos you're way behind (3 other AA combos, and 3 other KK combos)

2. There are 12 combos you're strongly ahead of (12 other AQs)

3. There are 27 combos you're around even with (6-QQ,6-JJ, 6-TT and 9 other AK)

given the above (that the range of hands you are up against is at worst equal with you), and that you have position for the rest of the hand, and that a 3-bet should take the blinds money as well, its a definite 3-bet

When I said 12 other AQs, I meant 12 other AQ combinations(plural), not 12 other AQ-suited

[W. Deranged]

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There are 5 players to Hero's left and he has AK. Three. Bet.

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If his range is JJ-AA, AK, shouldn't I fold instead?

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I think folding should certainly be considered if your read is solid enough. In middle position, I think the merits of a three-bet are much better than those of a cold-call.

I'm usually three-betting unless I have reason to believe that 3% is rock-solid (if it's really 5% or something a fold here would be pretty bad).

I think it's important to realize that by calling here we are essentially saying that we believe we have a reasonable amount of equity against the pfr. If that's the case, our equity should really be at least around 50% on average, in which case raising becomes an option. Since we can get the hand heads-up, buy the button, and gain the initiative when up against another AK or if the flop comes Q high and villain has JJ or TT or something, my thought is that if we think we should play we really do need to raise here.

[brazilio]

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I play it the same. The 3-bet preflop is completely without value against the pfr, and the BB coming along isn't a horrible proposition.

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There are 5 players to Hero's left and he has AK. Three. Bet.

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You are possibly the stupidest small stakes poster ever.