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Old 10-19-2005, 05:26 PM
Rooger Rooger is offline
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Sometimes you watch hands, where you really wonder what your opponent are holding.
What would you put villains on in this hand? I have a note on SB, he raised 8xBB UTG+1 and min-raised the next hand UTG.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($42.85)
Hero ($25.40)
MP ($29.79)
Button ($17.78)
SB ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $3.9</font>, BB calls $3.75, Button folds.

Flop: ($8.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($22.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks.

River: ($22.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $25</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $59.25


My thoughts: 16xBB raise in SB seems extremely aggressive with a premium hand, after one limper. I think AA, KK &amp; QQ are unlikely.

Flop: SB bets small, after having raised PF. Either this is a strong hand, or a fishy bet. BB rereaises - trying to steal the pot? My guess here is small overpair for BB - 99 or TT.

Turn: SB checks? After having reraised the turn, he checks? Was it a poor bluff? BB's check pretty much rules out TT from his hand. A weak 7?

River: SB checks again. BB makes a big bet - could be 99. SB almost min-check-raises?? A 9? What nines could he have, that he played the flop like this? 99? BB folds with incredible pot odds - almost 5:1?! A pure river bluff from him?

I'd really like to know the hands and the thoughts of the players in this hand - what would you guess they were holding?
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:36 PM
TreyOfLight TreyOfLight is offline
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Default Re: Hand reading skills

I'm positive SB has 99. BB's play is bizarre, I would guess some kind of 8 but really anything is possible.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:37 PM
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SB has AA.
BB has probably 99, maybe JJ.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:47 PM
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SB: AA or TT
BB: JJ-AA
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading skills

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SB has AA.
BB has probably 99, maybe JJ.

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why would BB fold a straight.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:08 PM
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SB: AA or TT
BB: JJ-AA

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AK/AQ/AJ is a likelier holding for BB than AA-JJ. given how the previous streets were played, i don't think AA-JJ folds that river bet.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:30 PM
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AK/AQ/AJ is a likelier holding for BB than AA-JJ. given how the previous streets were played, i don't think AA-JJ folds that river bet.

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Perhaps. I think BB might have AK here, could be a donk way to play it.

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SB: AA or TT
BB: JJ-AA

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I don't think SB would check-raise river with either of these hands. He took the lead again on the flop, and can't count on a bet on the river.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:50 PM
TheRegulat0r TheRegulat0r is offline
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SB has AA.
BB has probably 99, maybe JJ.

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why would BB fold a straight.

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haha, oops. JJ it is. I don't think he gets away from KK or AA and probably not QQ either if he's typical.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:50 PM
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BB has less than a pair and less than A high
SB has a pp over 55 but not 99

edit: I guess BB could have a pp under 66.
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