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I think I might have butchered this hand.
Basic reads: SB and BB are basic TAGs UTG is loose (42/6/1) CO is slightly loose/passive (27/11/.4) Button just sucks in general but has been playing an aggressive game and is up a good amount at this table. We'll skip ahead past the tedious parts... Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls. Flop: (8.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, Hero... |
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3 bet
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Button just sucks in general [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Preflop: Hero is Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] don't be so hard on yourself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] 3-bet here. |
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3 bet [/ QUOTE ] |
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If everyone but villain folded I would try to get a raise in on the turn. Since you have all kinds of fish along for the ride and a drawy board, pump it on the flop.
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Hmm, I have a feeling I should change the title to count the number of ways Moozh screwed up this hand. This aparently makes it one.
I just called. Part of the reason was because the pot was big and I didn't think I could get any opponents to fold. The main reason was that I figured that even if I did raise, the board was coordinated enough that a flop raise really wouldn't increase my pot equity nearly as much as a turn raise on a safe card. I'm curious to hear how bad you think this is if you disagree here. So I called planning to raise UTG on the turn... Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls. Flop: (8.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls. Turn: (8.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero is very confused at how CO has played his hand so far... |
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You raise the flop not because you will protect your hand, but because you have the best hand and know you can get in a lot of bets. When that turn card hit, you should be raising, if he 3-bets you can figure he has made his straight and call since you will have outs to fill up.
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I just called. Part of the reason was because the pot was big and I didn't think I could get any opponents to fold. The main reason was that I figured that even if I did raise, the board was coordinated enough that a flop raise really wouldn't increase my pot equity nearly as much as a turn raise on a safe card. [/ QUOTE ] Raise the flop for value, not for protection. With a pair of aces your equity won't change that much from the flop to turn; it's when you have a vulnerable hand like a pair of tens that waiting for the turn to protect and exploit a larger edge is better. |
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I agree you should have 3-bet flop for value.
Now you have to raise turn to make it unprofitable for any gutshots to call and to charge a flushdraw the maximum. If CO has QJ you still have 10 outs. |
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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls. Flop: (8.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls. Turn: (8.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero is very confused at how CO has played his hand so far... [/ QUOTE ] while you should have 3-bet the flop, if anything other than raising enters your mind here you are officially a big fat vagina. |
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