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Should I take the Pot Odds or wait for ICM
7 handed 500/1000 Blinds 125 Ante
Hero dealt (7s 7h) CO approx 15k Button approximately 15k Hero 6k CO Raises to 3000 Button Calls SB Fold Hero ? Is this an auto push, even though I have no folding equity, and could be against two callers with four overcards. [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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Re: Should I take the Pot Odds or wait for ICM
do you mean wait for itm? what is situtaion in tournament?
i'm inclined to push here. |
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Re: Should I take the Pot Odds or wait for ICM
Well, if you're worried about what you "could" be against, you could be up against AA and the other two sevens. Wouldn't that suck!
As short as your stack is, you should be thrilled with an even money proposition, and you are probably a little better than even money here. You definitely have to play. Since you have no folding equity, whether you should raise depends on whether you will close the action. If your raise would reopen the action, I'd raise on the off chance that someone else will pop it again, leaving you heads up with some dead money in the pot. If your raise would close the action, you should just call and then push on the flop. There is no real downside, and if you get a hand like 88 or 99 to fold because big cards came out, that's a huge gain of EV. Not to mention, your flop bet will make CO nervous about the squeeze play. |
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Re: Should I take the Pot Odds or wait for ICM
I push and hope the original raiser reraises all in to isolate with AQ or AK.
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Re: Should I take the Pot Odds or wait for ICM
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Since you have no folding equity, whether you should raise depends on whether you will close the action. If your raise would reopen the action, I'd raise on the off chance that someone else will pop it again, leaving you heads up with some dead money in the pot. If your raise would close the action, you should just call and then push on the flop. There is no real downside, and if you get a hand like 88 or 99 to fold because big cards came out, that's a huge gain of EV. Not to mention, your flop bet will make CO nervous about the squeeze play. [/ QUOTE ] i disagree. i don't think you want to let the guy who misses get away without giving you the extra 3k. it's true that if he has 6 outs you'd prefer he'd be gone on the flop. but the pfr will sometimes have A6 or 56, and sometimes the two guys will share a card, so the guy who'd fold would only add 0 or 3 outs to dodge. and often times you're way behind, so you want to sweeten up the pot for those times you do spike a 2-outer. and i don't think you're ever folding out 88 unless maybe the board is AKQ, and you're beat then anyway. |
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