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pocket tens against a Tag
30/60 game on Party - 8 handed.
Unknown raises UTG, 2 folds, slightly loose TAG (23/9/1.9) cold-calls, two folds, I call with TT in the sb (should I raise?), BB calls. Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I check, UTG checks, TAG bets, I raise, UTG folds, TAG 3-bets, I call. Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I donk, TAG calls. River: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check planning on calling. Is this bad? |
#2
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
I like 3-betting PF with the meat in the middle. If it was heads-up I like calling.
With the flush and straight draw on the board I think you have to call the 3-bet on the flop. I like the donk pet on the turn. I would have bet the river but I like your line better because I don't tempt myself with a shitty calling situation if I'm raised. - Jim |
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
A 3-bet PF will help define your hand against a totally unknown raising range. The bad news is you have to play OOP with a hand that is uncomfortable against a wide range of flops.
Unless TAG has a J, the river is a very scary card. I think we have some fold equity, so i like betting the river. Is TAG capable of folding an overpair here? Otherwise, a busted draw isn't calling us, and better hands are raising (unless TAG is afraid of the backdoor flush, which seems unlikely), so check/call is probably a more prudent line. (And obviously i'm a newb who doesn't play anywhere near 30/60. I'm just practicing.) |
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
Put this in the mid - high stakes forum. We all suck down here in small stakes.
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
ok at first I was thinking I like a river bet, but now I think most of the hands that you ahve beat will bet. hearts might make a desperation bluff, and 99 has a hard time checking behind there. also if he has AJs or something, you get raised and I don't think you can lay it down.
and I don't get the preflop call at all. you really ought to be trying to keep it 3 ways |
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
So what does the donkbet achieve?
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
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So what does the donkbet achieve? [/ QUOTE ] If I'm ahead it protects my hand. If I'm not, I think the 7 is a good card for me to bet. I pick up outs with that card and my opponent is less likely to raise me since that completed a straight draw. I think there is decent chance that I am ahead. That is my reasoning anyway. |
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
I think I like it except from pf. The reasoning for the donk seems pretty solid to me.
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
Aside from knocking out the BB, another advantage to the 3-bet could be seeing how much UTG likes his hand?
I like the rest. |
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Re: pocket tens against a Tag
Max,
This has become one of my favorite lines in the "pocket-pair-heads-up-against-one-overcard-OOP" kind of situation... You're reasoning for it is solid. I'd reraise pre-flop. |
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