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I hate calling down passive opponents
Villain (MP)is 49/13/.94 and hasn't done much betting or raising.
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (6.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 10.25 BB Man, this really bugs me. I knew the flop 3-bet couldn't be good. I can't pick out any hand that I'm ahead of other than maybe a flush draw that decided to go nuts. On the other hand, I'm not about to just fold top pair at the drop of a hat. |
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
Flush & straight draws might be getting over-aggro here as well as a weaker A. I've been 3-bet countless time in this spot by A2. Calldown is ok, or think about raising the turn maybe to punish an over-aggro drawing hand.
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
If you are certain he is a passive folding the turn is better than calling down IMO. Only very rarely will a passive 3-bet a hand like A8 or worse.
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
With a VPIP of 49, is an aggression of nearly 1 really all that passive?
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
You can probably fold this river when the 3rd club hits. Calling the river isn't that bad, either. No way do I fold before the river. There are way too many draws on this flop.
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
You can probably fold the river. I don't see him getting aggressive with a straight draw and continuing the aggression, unless of course he has a flush draw which just hit. I don't see a worse ace playing it this way, either. If you only have a few hands on the guy then I call it.
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
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With a VPIP of 49, is an aggression of nearly 1 really all that passive? [/ QUOTE ] No it is not. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. When looking at the agg stat keep in mind it needs to be looked at on a sliding scale with VPIP and PFR |
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
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I knew the flop 3-bet couldn't be good. I can't pick out any hand that I'm ahead of other than maybe a flush draw that decided to go nuts. On the other hand, I'm not about to just fold top pair at the drop of a hat. [/ QUOTE ] One line that can work is to cap the flop and fold the turn if he leads into you, but you need a very strong read on the player to do this (and your read must take into account the possibility that the guy is playing on tilt). |
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
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[ QUOTE ] With a VPIP of 49, is an aggression of nearly 1 really all that passive? [/ QUOTE ] No it is not. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. When looking at the agg stat keep in mind it needs to be looked at on a sliding scale with VPIP and PFR [/ QUOTE ] Not sure I agree with that. Someone with a high VPIP (50 range) ought to be folding a lot more flops than a TAG but they very rarely do, thus the low aggression. How do you mean exactly? |
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Re: I hate calling down passive opponents
players who are that loose preflop often do a lot of calling postflop, and it takes a LOT of betting to create a similar AF to a tighter player. thus even though their AF is lower, their average betting/raising hand will be weaker than a tighter player with a similar or higher AF.
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