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Aces cracked - Avoidable?
Playing .50/1 at Party Poker today I was dealt AA. I was on the button and the table was somewhat loose (4-5 to the flop usually) and very passive. I get 5 limpers in front of me, I raise, and the blinds and all the limpers call to make it 8 to the flop. At this point I'm regretting the raise because I know with this huge pot (16 small bets already) the whole table is going to chase every draw imaginable. Should I have limped to keep the pot from getting this big? Or is my pot equity just too good to pass up the raise?
The flop comes 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Everybody checks to me and I bet. I knew almost everybody would call for 1 bet given the size of the pot, but I didn't want to give a free card. Should I have checked and waited for the bigger bet on the turn card? Or is my pot equity still too good to pass up a raise? I get two folds and 5 calls. The turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] which puts 2 spades on the board. Everybody checks. I bet. 3 calls and 2 folds. The river is J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. The big blind bets and I know I'm done for. Everybody calls and he shows the 5 and 7 of spades for the flush. I'm going with the idea that I played this one OK because in this type of pot my aces only have to hold up about 1 in 5 times for me to make money. But, I would really like to know if there was some way for me to protect my hand a little better. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
this is a hard post to respond to since you dont know how to play poker. examples
"i'm regretting the pf raise (with AA)" "should i have checked through the flop and waited until the turn to bet?" "i raised the flop and raised the turn" (no, you bet the flop and turn) you should play 1 cent/2 cent or something. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
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Should I have limped to keep the pot from getting this big? [/ QUOTE ] No. [ QUOTE ] Or is my pot equity just too good to pass up the raise? [/ QUOTE ] Bingo. I like the bet on the flop. Make that guy who made his flush on the river pay to see a spade on the turn -- don't give it to him for free. Plus, you likely have the best hand, so bet. I like the bet on the turn, and the call on the river. You played this hand correctly IMO... sounds like a routine suck out. It happens. A lot. Welcome to the boards. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
Bet bet bet. Raise raise raise. Why do you want to check aces. That's super weak-tight. I'm also guessing if I asked you how much water is in the glass, you'd say it's half-empty. Be more optimistic against bad players.
EDIT: When I said bet bet bet raise raise raise, I'm not talking about the river. Correct river play is often counterintuitive and opposite of other streets. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
This might be a little harsh. He came across to me as just VERY inexperienced and unsure of himself, not as imcompetent or completely clueless.
[ QUOTE ] "i raised the flop and raised the turn" (no, you bet the flop and turn) [/ QUOTE ] So he used the wrong verb, an indication of an inexperienced player. This is just being nit picky. Occasionally I will still say raise when I meant bet. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
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This might be a little harsh. He came across to me as just VERY inexperienced and unsure of himself, not as imcompetent or completely clueless. [ QUOTE ] "i raised the flop and raised the turn" (no, you bet the flop and turn) [/ QUOTE ] So he used the wrong verb, an indication of an inexperienced player. This is just being nit picky. Occasionally I will still say raise when I meant bet. [/ QUOTE ] ok, using the wrong word is no big deal. but how can you say he was not completely clueless? he didnt want to raise pf with Aces because it would create a big pot and the flop came 3 suits, all garbage and he wanted to check it through!! |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
you played it well despite not having a clue how to play it.
they outdrew you. big deal. |
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Re: Aces cracked - Avoidable?
If you fold Aces pre-flop you'll never get them cracked. Otherwise it is unavoidable.
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If you fold Aces pre-flop you'll never get them cracked. [/ QUOTE ] You just blew my mind. |
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[ QUOTE ] If you fold Aces pre-flop you'll never get them cracked. [/ QUOTE ] You just blew my mind. [/ QUOTE ] Out-of-the-box thinking at its finest. |
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