2005 WSOP Main Event

[DalaiLama]

May the winner be a cocky, arrogant, marketable, 19 year old who started playing six months ago. If so, 04 will look like a depression.

[MLG]

He'll have to be 21. Also I've been playing for 1.5 years, but I'm pretty cocky.

[DyessMan89]

21 to gamble last time I checked.

But yes, it will be a lucky amatuer.

[ZeeJustin]

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But yes, it will be a lucky amatuer.

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How can you say this? There will be at least 300 professionals playing in this tournament. To say that they have no chance at winning is foolish.

[ttleistdci]

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But yes, it will be a lucky amatuer.

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How can you say this? There will be at least 300 professionals playing in this tournament. To say that they have no chance at winning is foolish.

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While amateurs make up a huge portion of the entries, I think a pro will win it this year.
Last year, some of the bigger names tried to bully the amateurs into submission with big raises and bluffs. Like Daniel N. said, a lot of the amateurs were too stupid to realize they shouldn't be calling and made the calls.
I'd be surprised if some of the favorites didn't just sit back for a little while and let the amateurs knock each other out then go to work when the field is down to a managable number.

[Greg (FossilMan)]

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Last year, some of the bigger names tried to bully the amateurs into submission with big raises and bluffs. Like Daniel N. said, a lot of the amateurs were too stupid to realize they shouldn't be calling and made the calls.
I'd be surprised if some of the favorites didn't just sit back for a little while and let the amateurs knock each other out then go to work when the field is down to a managable number.

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When will it be a manageable number? You'll have to have 1/4 to 1/2 of a million in chips to be an average stack and facing a "manageable number" of players.

The key is to not bluff players who won't be bluffed, but to value bet them. Daniel made that mistake, and he knows it. So do some other players who made that mistake. I'm guilty of this myself sometimes, trying to bluff a player when I know their hand is pretty weak, but not making myself realize that this guy will call with that pocket pair of 6s when I push in on a flop of 4h9dJs (while holding AK).

The smart players do not merely survive the first couple of days, they use them to accummulate chips while there are still a lot of really weak players left in the field. They merely have to remember to accummulate chips intelligently, and not by trying to bulldoze the weak players.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[betgo]

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Last year, some of the bigger names tried to bully the amateurs into submission with big raises and bluffs. Like Daniel N. said, a lot of the amateurs were too stupid to realize they shouldn't be calling and made the calls.

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Negreanu's style is that he is good on picking up reads and bluffing weaker players. That works well against the type of weak player Negreanu was used to encountering in a $10K tournament, that is a solid amateur or semipro player who was outclassed at that level. Against a real calling station type this kind of play is suicide. They showed Negreanu looking pretty silly on TV trying that sort of thing. Bluffing a calling station is a basic error that Brunson discusses in SS.

[JupiterUWG]

as is most likely the case for the majority of years from now on....field is just too big

[sup bro?]

sup bro hopes the winner is someone who had 15 tackles for losses in 1995

sup bro?

[TonyS0pran0]

sup bro played in a weak conference. t soprano made a living of pancaking young skinny white chumps like you. t soprano had 88 pancakes in '95!!!