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Old 01-17-2005, 01:18 PM
freehat freehat is offline
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Default Party 3/6 turn decision

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (20.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (21.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.16 BB
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Old 01-17-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

This is a really easy fold on the turn. You don't have the odds to continue drawing to a set and there is little chance your spade is good.
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Old 01-17-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

Wtf, Fold the turn dude.
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Old 01-17-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

I agree - this isn't a turn decision. You should fold the flop when you don't hit your set. Even if everyone else is playing overcards, all you've got is a lousy pair of 2s. There is practically no chance you're going to drag this pot by the time the river comes without hitting your crappy 2-outer.
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Old 01-17-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

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I agree - this isn't a turn decision. You should fold the flop when you don't hit your set. Even if everyone else is playing overcards, all you've got is a lousy pair of 2s. There is practically no chance you're going to drag this pot by the time the river comes without hitting your crappy 2-outer.


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I agree, especially with the fact that CO capped you have a large probability of paying more than 1 bet on the flop. If your closing the action on the flop or think it won't get raised behind, calling getting like 20:1 is fine with a small pair hoping to spike a set on the turn.

Also, I probably would've folded this when it was another 2 bets back to me preflop. I think your only getting like 11:2 on the call with a chance of another raise.
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Old 01-17-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

The pot is big enough to try to spike a 2 outer on the turn.
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Old 01-17-2005, 02:18 PM
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The pot is big enough to try to spike a 2 outer on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]for reaL??
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Old 01-17-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

I completely disagree. With the preflop capper yet to act, it's a minor miracle that he got to see the turn with only one SB. With a T and a spade flush draw on the board, it's not a good idea to peel one off here. You could make your miracle set and still lose. Fold the flop.
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Old 01-17-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

To clarify, you mean to catch on the turn which means calling the flop. Not calling the turn to see the river, right?
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 turn decision

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I agree - this isn't a turn decision. You should fold the flop when you don't hit your set. Even if everyone else is playing overcards, all you've got is a lousy pair of 2s. There is practically no chance you're going to drag this pot by the time the river comes without hitting your crappy 2-outer.

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if everyone has overcards then folding is a catastrophe
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