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Old 11-04-2005, 03:35 PM
Nilbud Nilbud is offline
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

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mind posting your VP$IP by position for both? also ASB/FSB/FBB?

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I'm not sure what ASB is. I'm assuming FSB and FBB is folded to steal from each position?

.50/1 Full Ring 12,700 hands (7-10 players)
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Button 23.27
1 23.91
2 16.40
3 19.07
4 17.91
5 17.33
6 17.21
7 17.33
BB 11.04
SB 34.02

FSB 85.51
FBB 78.67

1/2 6-max 3,506 hands
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Button 24.51
1 19.40
2 15.38
3 13.12
BB 19.58
SB 29.82

FSB 69.74
FBB 46.58
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

ASB = Attempt to Steal Blinds
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

hmm it seems your blind play is vastly different in 6max and full ring...according to a lot of what is discussed here, it seems you underfend in full ring and overdefend in 6max...also your stats for MP fullring and EP 6max don't match up like one would expect - 3 off the button is 3 off the button, after all. I'm not sure what you play where so I can't comment too intelligently, but that's interesting.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:44 PM
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ASB = Attempt to Steal Blinds

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6-max - 27.37
full-ring - 19.69
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

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hmm it seems your blind play is vastly different in 6max and full ring...according to a lot of what is discussed here, it seems you underfend in full ring and overdefend in 6max...also your stats for MP fullring and EP 6max don't match up like one would expect - 3 off the button is 3 off the button, after all. I'm not sure what you play where so I can't comment too intelligently, but that's interesting.

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A lot of my .50/1 hands were played on the Party beginner tables, which are either loose-passive or lagtastic. Also, I did a hell of a lot of learning over those 15K 50/1 hands. I'd say I figured out what defending the blinds was somewhere in the middle of those hands.

When I started playing 6-max, I fell into the trap of proving the LAGs were bluff-raising PF. I figured out that sometimes they actually have a hands when they 3-bet an EP raise from MP [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

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You may not be isolation raising as often as you could be. Generally when a bad player limps in front of me I will raise with the majority of the hands I would have open raised with.

You also may not be defending your big blind enough.

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I like that isolation play. I'll keep my eyes open and give it a try. I am a bit worried about what I do on the flop and turn if I miss though.

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It depends on the strength of your hand, the opponent you are against and the texture of the board.

In general if you isolate a loose, passive player and it's heads up, you should fold if bet into and bet if checked to (when you miss that is).
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

"and bet if checked to (when you miss that is)."

I would have to disagree with this as a blanket statement, against loose passives I'm much more likely to take a free card on the turn with something lacking showdown value, and more likely to bet hands like AT unimproved for value.

if you are isolating only with hands that have showdown value, then I agree in principle with your statement
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:37 PM
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"and bet if checked to (when you miss that is)."

I would have to disagree with this as a blanket statement, against loose passives I'm much more likely to take a free card on the turn with something lacking showdown value, and more likely to bet hands like AT unimproved for value.

if you are isolating only with hands that have showdown value, then I agree in principle with your statement

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I agree, I actually meant on the flop.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:47 PM
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oh, word.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: What is your 6-max vpip/pfr?

You're really defending your SB more than your BB? Or are those your fold to steal numbers? I also prefer isolating with the weaker TP hands like A10 vs loose limpers than something like 109s.
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