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Old 07-14-2005, 04:13 PM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

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Wouldn't it be something if Greg went back to back 04 & 05 with these giant fields. It'ld make Hellmuth ME wins look like wins at the Sunday afternoon 25+5 on the strip.

Hellmuth is proving that it doesn't take a bad play or beat for him to act like a low class tool.


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Old 07-14-2005, 04:40 PM
Gordon Scott Gordon Scott is offline
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

Didn't Hellmuth win in. woops thats right he only has one.

My mistake....
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

Does anybody know if Greg has won money playing in these tournies since his win in WSOP?

Everybody who follows 2+2 knows Greg's a great player, but if all Hellmuth has are numbers that say, he's lost $$ in big buy in tournies since last year, that's all he can go on.

Hellmuth's not great with words.

And that woman dancing around after she won with ace queen is ridiculous. Its ok to run around after you hit a number on a roulette wheel cause you're playing the house. Dancing around after you lay a beat on someone's totally different and classless.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:49 PM
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Dancing around after you lay a beat on someone's totally different and classless.

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Old 07-14-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

i think Hellmuth is a tool; but i also think people are making far too big a deal out of this. Luck is a huge factor in any single tournament and saying someone is lucky or has gotten lucky isn't dogging their skills.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:59 PM
LLKOOLK1 LLKOOLK1 is offline
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Default Raymer has had a better year than Phil...

Overall money wise, he has. And cashing in tourneys, I belive he is also ahead of Phil. He had that cash in the WPT Championship, and the Final table of the 1500 NL wsop. Phil won the Headsup championship, forr 500,000, but overall i think greg is having a better year. Sorry Phil
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Raymer has had a better year than Phil...

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And cashing in tourneys, I belive he is also ahead of Phil.

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I don't think so. At the moment, anyway, that one win at the heads up tourney puts Phil ahead.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

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Check out his quote at the end of the article...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8567118/

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Of course Raymer is getting lucky, as Phil said, if there wasn't luck involved, he'd win every time. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

Without even look at this years Main Event where Raymer will make another big score, here is Raymer's tournament record over the last year and here is Hellmuth's. Phil has no busniess making comments like that given the sucess that Raymer has had in the last year, winning the ME, making a few solid cashes in the with fields of 500+ AND making the final table of yet ANOTHEr 2 thousand person tourney in the world series, not even count this ME yet.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth dogging Raymer

Makes you wonder what kinds of lives these people have.
They take offense to one poker player criticizing another.
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