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Why do you assume that top pair has no value? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. I assume it has much reduced value, and must be played cautiously. |
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All those times the CO is raising with KK-TT, our Ace is good. [/ QUOTE ] Not all those times. The table was described as weak. A weak player is very capable of limping AT, AJ or even AQ and AK. |
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Whoever has said things like they are never coldcalling or that this hand is bad for that are wrong IMO. If that same villian were UTG and raised, there were 3 coldcallers in between and you fold A9s on the button you are giving up way too much. Im just leaning towards a fold because of poor relative position.
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I call here but I don't love the situation
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A marginal situation for sure. Swinging it to a call for me was the awful-ness and calling tendencies of the limpers. I actually got less action than expected on the actual hand. And. yes, some of that is certainly relative position-related.
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[ QUOTE ] Why do you assume that top pair has no value? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. I assume it has much reduced value, and must be played cautiously. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In Hero's case, we are reduced to having just 1 way to win a miltiway pot: with the nut flush. The effectiveness of our top-pair hand is reduced to nearly zero. [/ QUOTE ] |
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I hate folding in this spot. Just because he plays tight, does not mean that he doesnt loosen his raising standards in late position. Many players consider me a very tight player, however I will raise from the cutoff in the described situation with 910 suited J10 suited and pocket pairs down to 44. I think you can find a call, or a fold. Hearts call clubs fold spades call diamonds fold.
Three betting makes no sense. |
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I think a lot of you guys need to redefine tight player. Tight players don't always need big hands to raise from the cutoff after 3 limpers. I played with poster Fred G Sanford one night at the Borgata and he raised with 22-44 in this spot. As a side note he hit a set each time and punished the limpers [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Sometimes the tight player will "beat" you to the pot with a hand like KJ s000ted or J9 s000ted. Some tight players will raise with these hands. Sometimes the tight player has position on you by acting first. When Fred G Sanford and I play together we try to switch up position. Sometimes he will sit on my right and have position on me, and sometimes he will to to my left and I have position on him. Just something to ponder when evaluating players. |
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