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Old 11-17-2005, 06:19 PM
soah soah is offline
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You bet the flop into three opponents. He still wants to put $100 (or more) in the pot. King high no good. Next hand.

Next time just check the flop. Someone has a pocket pair and they aren't folding it, especially to that crap bet. Building a bigger pot to steal with nothing is major chip spewing.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:46 PM
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Continuation bet is bad. That size CB is worse.

You made a point of saying that hes weak post flop because he gets to showdown 20%. I disagree that this means hes weak, but if you think it makes him weak, then thats all the more reason to fold.

How often do YOU get to showdown?
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:28 PM
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no, you should fold
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:34 PM
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:40 PM
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What would you do with an overpair here? How about a set? I thnk you'd be calling here. A raise reeks badly in this spot.

I don't think there's any hand you would raise with here EXCEPT a bluff and the straight - and if villian is thinking they will know this.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:11 PM
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What would you do with an overpair here? How about a set? I thnk you'd be calling here. A raise reeks badly in this spot.

I don't think there's any hand you would raise with here EXCEPT a bluff and the straight - and if villian is thinking they will know this.

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My thoughts exactly.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:22 PM
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What is his hand range

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You say he's TAG, but with a VPIP of 33 I think he can have a suited connector, since button is in.

So, he can have some draws (76, 75, 87, 77) some kind of strong hands (56, 53, set, 88-JJ) and some 4's (44, 34, 54, 64) so I fold

A bluff from him seems unlikely
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Old 11-18-2005, 12:13 AM
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Well I guess it's unanimous. No one likes the CB. No one likes the size of the CB. No one likes to bluff the turn. I'm not sure if I should bother trying to justify any of this hand then. Maybe I should just realize the whole thing is bad. Anyways, I pushed and he folded. Pretty sure he had a small overpair. It just SCREAMED to me that he was leading and folding to a raise with his bet size and the fact that he led out instead of waiting for me to commit myself and then check/raising. I figured that he would check/raise a set or a straight. Or if he decided to bet, he would bet more and hope I called with an overpair. It just seemed SO obvious that he was thinking "I might be good, but I don't want to commit myself so I'll bet only 75 into the 130 pot and fold if he pushes." So I pushed. And he folded.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:25 AM
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Well I guess it's unanimous. No one likes the CB. No one likes the size of the CB.

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I do like both, and would make both.

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No one likes to bluff the turn. I'm not sure if I should bother trying to justify any of this hand then. Maybe I should just realize the whole thing is bad. Anyways, I pushed and he folded. Pretty sure he had a small overpair. It just SCREAMED to me that he was leading and folding to a raise with his bet size and the fact that he led out instead of waiting for me to commit myself and then check/raising. I figured that he would check/raise a set or a straight. Or if he decided to bet, he would bet more and hope I called with an overpair. It just seemed SO obvious that he was thinking "I might be good, but I don't want to commit myself so I'll bet only 75 into the 130 pot and fold if he pushes." So I pushed. And he folded.

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I dont likethe bluff, although it seems you read the situation well.
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:08 PM
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I think that NLHE is a game of recall. After a while you've seen pretty much all there is to see and it becomes a matter of recalling "what did I do last time".

I can't explain it, but I believe it's there. It's something you can recall from your subconscious and what.....know, feel, sense, smell, recognize, gut feel?

The bottom line is that this decision does not have to be correct all of the time, or most of the time, or half the time. What counts is making this call correctly when the big money is on the line.
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