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By overraising as he did, Curtis was essentially announcing to the world that he had KK or better. Even a total noob would know that.
Sammy, having position and being an excellent post-flop player, knew that he was only a 4.5 to 1 dog against these hands. Since he probably thought the opponent would be pot committed he probably counted his entire stack in his implied odds number crunch. Since it was very early in the tournament, he was probably getting 8 to 1 or so. The only kind of board that would keep his opponent from being pot committed would be something along the lines of a 4 to a straight flush of other than his suits on fourth street. Otherwise, he's in for all he's got. Another benefit which I'm sure Sammy recognized was that with three times more chips at the outset, he would then be able to bully the table, a practice he has mastered. |
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My favorite part of this hand was actually DN's reaction. He asked if the guy really meant to bet 1K, then leaned way over in his chair to get a good look at the guy who raised it to 20xbb preflop. It's like he was thinking "I want to remember you..."
Agreed on the discussion of Farha's push a set or fold plan. |
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If we assume Sammy never folds when he flops a 3 and curtis never folds on any flop then the math is as follows:
out of 8.5 times: 7.5 time sammy will fold and lose 1000 (-7500) 1 time he will flop a set and win the hand 81% of the time( and 10k from crutis) (+8100) The average EV of the call is ~71. |
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Anyone else add on anything here or correct some stuff? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe he was confident he could get AA / KK to lay it down due to his image. Barron Vangor Toth BarronVangorToth.com |
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Here is Anthony Curtis' side:
[ QUOTE ] I'm up to $14,300. Then trouble. I pick up AA. This is a real problem hand in this situation. I bet $1,000 and Farha called after a lot of thought, looking at Negreanu and saying "you gotta gamble, right." He had 33 and the flop came 3-4-9. I bet 6,000, he raised all-in, and I called. Two big mistakes on my part. First, there was no reason to bet as much as I did after the flop. Betting the size of the pot, about $2,000, would have made him lay it down had he missed the flop. Second, I have to know he's hit a set at this point (though I was thinking possible KK, maybe even QQ). Had I made the better bet, I might have been able to throw the aces. Honestly, I'm not sure though. TV table and a chance to bounce Farha and go to $29,000 was too enticing. I think the deciding factor was that I don't feel I'm good enough right now to throw away aces and play on against the best players in the world, so I took my shot. [/ QUOTE ] |
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I was actually a little disappointed that someone with such a good understanding of casino odds (blackjack, craps, etc.) would play AA this way. I was like, surely he's trying to overbet in hopes that some donk amateur would call him with a lower pair (3s would suffice). [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
[ QUOTE ] I'm up to $14,300. Then trouble. I pick up AA. This is a real problem hand in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] A real problem hand? In the early stages of a tournament where you're deep in chips when compared with the blinds? [ QUOTE ] I bet $1,000 ... [/ QUOTE ] Come again??? [ QUOTE ] and Farha called after a lot of thought, looking at Negreanu and saying "you gotta gamble, right." He had 33 and the flop came 3-4-9. I bet 6,000, he raised all-in, and I called. Two big mistakes on my part. First, there was no reason to bet as much as I did after the flop. Betting the size of the pot, about $2,000, would have made him lay it down had he missed the flop. Second, I have to know he's hit a set at this point (though I was thinking possible KK, maybe even QQ). Had I made the better bet, I might have been able to throw the aces. Honestly, I'm not sure though. TV table and a chance to bounce Farha and go to $29,000 was too enticing. I think the deciding factor was that I don't feel I'm good enough right now to throw away aces and play on against the best players in the world, so I took my shot. [/ QUOTE ] A $6k flop bet? Man, if you're up against a set of 3s well then so be it, but the other 88% of the time, you'd want to get a little value out of the rockets doncha' think? Anthony, so disappointed, so, so disappointed. |
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[ QUOTE ] Anyone else add on anything here or correct some stuff? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe he was confident he could get AA / KK to lay it down due to his image. Barron Vangor Toth BarronVangorToth.com [/ QUOTE ] Maybe that will become the basis for Playing on the Edge Part 9 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] -greg |
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i posted this up... so the general concensus is that farha made a fine play with the information he had reguardless of his skill level.
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i posted this up... so the general concensus is that farha made a fine play with the information he had reguardless of his skill level. [/ QUOTE ]yea, u were right on in ur original post for most of the reasoning too, mostly impied odds |
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Anthony Curtis is not an unknown to anyone that has watch travel channel specials on las vegas.
He runs a really good website also: www.lasvegasadvisor.com |
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