pop quiz

[Eeegah]

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The point was to show that if you need to win at 5% to justify a call, your true win rate when you call should be much higher. This is because every call you make should have, as a floor, a 5% win rate.

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This has no basis in reality whatsoever and if it were true we could never draw to a 2-outer no mater what.

Now if you're talking about triggering rake which inherently reduces win rate then it's a different story.

[elindauer]

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This is because every call you make should have, as a floor, a 5% win rate.

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This has no basis in reality whatsoever and if it were true we could never draw to a 2-outer no mater what.

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Come on. Do I really have to say in every sentence I make in the thread that I'm talking specifically about the situation in the OP, in which you are calling, can only beat a bluff, and are getting 19:1? Do you typically run around opening random threads and calling the poster a moron without any regard for context?

Between tyler_cracker's "THIS POST SUCKS" and now this guy, I understand why so many good players I know don't ever come here.

-Eric

[krishanleong]

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The answer I was looking for was: he's too loose.

The point was to show that if you need to win at 5% to justify a call, your true win rate when you call should be much higher. This is because every call you make should have, as a floor, a 5% win rate. You should get plenty of opportunities to call with much better odds than this though, and those calls should drive your winrate up.

If you answered too loose because he should fold if he's exactly 19:1 against then you got the right answer for the wrong reason. I should have made it "just a tiny fraction better than 5%" to make this logic clearly wrong.

If you got the wrong answer because it was unclear that I meant the 5% to refer to his winrate when he calls, and not overall, I apologize for the confusing wording.


thanks,
Eric

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Heh, I got it wrong. Thanks for making me a better poker player today than I was yesterday.

Krishan

fwiw, I don't think I've learned much from this poll, and you haven't even told us how to run these filters in PT!

[Shillx]

Elindauer,

The idea that he is too loose is correct, but it also isn't very practical since it is impossible to analyze everyone of these spots using traditional methods. I have had always held back some ideas from the boards becuse they didn't seem logical (to people who may be reading it) or were too hard to confirm. Having the ability to attach a model to such spots would be highly useful. My basic theory on the issue is that calling in big pots is an overrated concept on the boards. So I just have to ask...

1) Is it possible to run a search like this?

2) If so, how do you do it?

Thanks in advance.

[krishanleong]

You can't tell. He could start calling more and winning more. He could start calling less and winning more. Same with calling less.

Krishan