HU Question

[Schneids]

You're playing someone HU in a SBB game and the opponent isn't totally clueless. Should you be checking the flop some pct of the time when he raises PF and you 3-bet in the BB? What effect do you think this can have on your opponent? Is it worthwhile to pursue? How does this change the game if you're doing it about 50% of the time you 3 bet from the BB?

[bobbyi]

I'v never seen the term "SBB game" before. Is it "small blind on the button"?

[Schneids]

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I'v never seen the term "SBB game" before. Is it "small blind on the button"?

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Right. I stated it since not everyone knows in HU matches this is the normal way (esp those who have only played HU on Party and are relatively new to poker).

[kurosh]

I don't think it's a good idea. Any extra information you give is bad. As long as your opponent doesn't think you're a retard, he will realize what you are doing. It might confuse him a little, but ultimately, it won't give you an advantage.

[Ulysses]

Seems like it would put your opponent completely off balance.

[ClaytonN]

It would seem to me that the more clueless your opponent is, the less effective this would be.

[TStoneMBD]

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It would seem to me that the more clueless your opponent is, the less effective this would be.

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i think its exactly the opposite. clueless opponents might not know how to change their frequencies of flop bets when you open fold sometimes. they might see you open fold 1 out of 15 hands and have that effect the way they value your flop checks more so than appropriate.

if you openfold 1 out of 15 times when you could check, the bad player might add more credibility to the value of your checks when a good player would realize openfolding 1 out of 15 times effects the value or your checks very little.

[DMBFan23]

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It would seem to me that the more clueless your opponent is, the less effective this would be.

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i think its exactly the opposite. clueless opponents might not know how to change their frequencies of flop bets when you open fold sometimes. they might see you open fold 1 out of 15 hands and have that effect the way they value your flop checks more so than appropriate.

if you openfold 1 out of 15 times when you could check, the bad player might add more credibility to the value of your checks when a good player would realize openfolding 1 out of 15 times effects the value or your checks very little.

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I think this falls into the class of plays that doesn't work on retards or solid thinking players, but works well on the medicore thinking players who will overadjust...they talk about a play or two like that in (maybe) SSH, I think.

[admiralfluff]

If there are two evenly matched expert players, the one who does not open fold will have an edge, as the other will adjust accordingly.

Against a retard, it won't work, because they will not pay attention.

I think this move is best suited if you're playing against paranoid schizophrenics. Your open-folding 2% of the time, will make them think that 75% of the time you check the flop, you will raise if they bet.

If you're an orderly in a mental institution, this could be gold.

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If you're an orderly in a mental institution, this could be gold.

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Classic.

Actually, it's easier to make this play live. You can stare your opponent down before folding and drive him NUTS.

Online, it's a pain in the ass. Not only do you gain next to nothing, but you have to click YES to "Checking is free, are you sure you want to fold?" every friggin time.