Stars $650 WSOP sat. Turned top 2, insta-call?

[A_PLUS]

haha, also if we keep playing so much poker, we will be abstaining from sex (fat, pale, degenerates get no chicks), and we know what that does for brain power.

There isnt a more satisfying play in poker than the huge overbet with a made hand when you have been really lagging it up and someone looks like they are prepared to make a stand.

[durron597]

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I doubt it. This hand probably wouldn't be posted if the hero didn't lose.

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I don't know about you, but I post hands I ended up winning if I was unsure of my play.

[slickpoppa]

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I doubt it. This hand probably wouldn't be posted if the hero didn't lose.

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I don't know about you, but I post hands I ended up winning if I was unsure of my play.

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So do I. But neither you nor I posted the hand in question.

[PennDisc]

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I doubt it. This hand probably wouldn't be posted if the hero didn't lose.

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I don't know about you, but I post hands I ended up winning if I was unsure of my play.

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So do I. But neither you nor I posted the hand in question.

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Well I do post both hands I win and that I lose, so it could have been either. In this one, I did call after using more than a minute and a half of my time bank, and he had a lower 2 pair. schzwa had it right off the bat with Q9. The point of the post wasn't really to elicit a bunch of guesses, but more to determine whether I was weak-tight for even giving it that much thought. (hence the "insta-call?" in my title) Nobody said fold, and nobody said to insta-call either, so it seems like my line of reasoning at the time was warranted.

The other thing about the hand that I found interesting was that his line didn't make sense for many hands. So if you take for granted my no-bluff read (yes this is a big assumption) he has something that is beating the top pair that I've represented on the flop and turn. Without being able to narrow further, I really could be ahead or behind.

In retrospect, his play makes some sense in that he decided to draw on the flop to his 5-outer, and raised when it hit, going all-in to avoid a difficult decision on the river. Any T,J, or club makes his decision difficult, and if I do have top pair like he suspects, a K or 4 kills his hand. Plus he doesn't know what other card will make me 2 pair to beat him. In my opinion it was still a big overplay on his part to put his whole stack in on a T650 pot but I could see how he would think he's ahead.

[adanthar]

A set probably doesn't raise the flop, at least if this guy is like me (one draw, pot bet to him, who cares about the other guys right now). But then he makes this massive bet on the turn, which is unlike what a set *should* do.

I think 2 pair is the right read and it's probably something like a K9s or even another KQ. I'd call.

[Seadood228]

What he said..

I've played in a lot of these, and you'll be surprised what you'll get shown down. You'll get shown a set a small percentage of the time, and unbelievably marginal hands the rest.

[blockafor]

Villain has AA.

[woodguy]

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Villain has AA.

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Not a bad guess.......

Turn looks like it.

Regards,
Woodguy

[Scooterdoo]

I don't think it's an insta-call, but I would probably come to the conclusion to call. My best guess, assuming the villain is a typical player, is that he has (from most likely to least likely): a) K9; b) same hand as you - KQ; c) AQd or an inferior Axd hand; d) 44 - quite possible, although he should raise on the flop given the flush draw; e) an inferior hand to a bluff which is least likely.

[Scooterdoo]

Just saw the results. I guess Q9 makes a lot of sense too. Good hand!