Floor!!! what's the ruling???

[bigfishead]

I have seen this numerous time in NL games. Each and every time the ruling is/was the same. The raiser may still raise any amount he wishes and the caller must call that amount.

Also each time...the raiser then made the MINIMUM raise. And naturally lost the pot.

[bigfishead]

KC50 what you describe as the resultant explanation from the floor and subsequent rulling was extremely well handled.
I would be surprised if this floor person spoke to the dealer later on away from the table.

[ghettorat]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. For all coming here in the near future, Foxwoods rule is: If you move forward past your cards with chips, its a bet/call. Of course as with any rule at Foxwoods, this depends on who you are and who is working the floor. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Brad

[bigfishead]

bet made, bet called

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

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Here is a variant of the above problem: Player A (known angle shooter but great action) is first to act on the river and has about $700, with about $400 on the table and $300 in three stacks of twenty $5 chips in a chip rack. He takes the rack and slowly slides the rack well forward towards the pot. Before he releases his hold on the rack, Player B clearly says, “call”. Now Player A (who was apparently bluffing) tries to pull his rack back, and screams at the dealer and table that he hadn’t released his bet.

You are the floor and are called to the table. How do you rule?


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Bet made. Bet called.

I do think the floor should allow leeway when errors are made by newbies, which I saw a number of times at LL in Vegas. My wife tried to fold from the BB when she just needed to check and the dealer stopped her, that sort of thing.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

House dependent.

I recall while in Vegas several casinos specifically said that chips moved beyond cards constituted a bet. At Mandalay the dealers reminded players of this (and about the high hand jackpots) at every push. Got pretty annoying.

[Fletch101]

At Foxwoods, I have been told be some of the old timers there that(at least for the WPT satellites) that placing chips between your cards and the pot constitutes a bet. I just reviewed the Foxwoods tournament rules and was not able to confirm this either way.

Fletch