15/30 KJo

[Lmn55d]

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I dont think there is any VALUE to betting here.

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You're telling me the 15/30 on party is a game where players will never call this turn bet with an 8, 4, straight draw, or other pocket pair?

[CardSharpCook]

Chief, I too am baffled by your statement.

[Chief911]

I've always said I'm just a donk livin the life. =)

Nick

[Perseus]

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Chief, I too am baffled by your statement.

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I must say Chief I was suprised when I saw you favored checking, and in your scenarios you left out you bet/he calls. You still win one bet here after the flop, but you make people pay to see the river no matter how weak thier draws are. Also, there is a chance you can pick up the pot on the turn.

If raised you could easily fold.

I favor betting here

[Lmn55d]

I would bet the turn unless you expect to get semibluff-raised or bluff raised pretty frequently. In the games I play, most guys will call down with any pair here. He also could have peeled the flop with 56 or 67 (or a flush draw in example 2).

If he calls the turn, I would also bet the river and fold to a raise. I think you miss too much value by checking the turn.

If it's a very aggro guy who is capable of raising as a bluff or semibluff, go ahead and check it. Or if it's a guy who will only call the flop with an ace.

Otherwise, bet it dawg.

[SackUp]

I heavily favor a bet on both turns. We have to remember that we are in a blind steal situation and players are very likely to call down with any piece, not just an Ace. I bet the turn for value and against most players I am more than comfortable with fold to a c/r.

Also I think he c/r a FD and c/r the A more often than he check/calls and waits to pop the turn. This looks like he has a piece and is calling down or maybe has a pp and is hoping to "hit"

[DMBFan23]

scenario 2 was the real hand, scenario 1 was just something I was curious about. he had 22 and called the river