38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let's play "SPOT THE MISTAKES"

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... a gutshot...

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not really
but we do have 3 outs so I think it is a call getting 10:1

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ugh i suck today (and yesterday). where's your avatar?

Preflop I think I just call this and hope it doesn't get capped by the original raiser

The flop call is close, but I think its alright getting 10-1 and rediculous implied odds, especially considering you knew you were going to hit runner runner flush

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I don't think there a huge mistake anywhere. Propably like others said the preflop cap is a little too much, but other than that, you played it fine.

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3 outs is 14.3 to 1. + Maybe .25 outs for each overcard, that's an easy call IMO.

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3 outs is 14.3 to 1. + Maybe .25 outs for each overcard, that's an easy call IMO.

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You need 14.3:1, you are not getting 14.3:1 and your not closing the action, how the hell is that an easy call?

Also if you are saying bdfd and bdsd are a total of 3 outs, then that is completely wrong. the SD is worth no more than .5 outs.

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[NLfool]

I think the flop call is pretty bad. Yeah the odds are there but if any of them has JJ-AA and even something crappy as JQ-AK you're screwed.

[ejay]

there were a few mistakes if you ask me. There is no way i cap and i am leaning towrads folding. I am 29/17 so i am usally pretty aggresive but here you daont really know what you are looking for except for a flush. On the flop there is no way that you can call two cold with basically two over cards (prolly no good) and 2 backdoor draws.

[JackWilson]

2 things:

1. Am I not winning more than my share against 4 opponents here? That would indicate a preflop cap...When would you cap this because of a preflop equity edge? I remember something like this in SSH where it was suggested you should cap with AJs against 4 or 5 opponents because your preflop equity edge is great. KQs in a 6 handed game seems to be similar. I'm fully expecting to be wrong, I'd just like to hear a bit more about it.

2. The button had a HEARTBREAKER - AJ of diamonds [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[MicroBob]

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I remember something like this in SSH where it was suggested you should cap with AJs against 4 or 5 opponents because your preflop equity edge is great. KQs in a 6 handed game seems to be similar.

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I just don't think it's similar enough though.

[Cancuk]

The cap is +EV w/ the cold callers coming along, although it's also an extreamly high variance play, but nonetheless +EV.
But, you have to fold the flop.
The rest looks fine.