1/2 NL Live Deep Stacked

[jman220]

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Of course the guy who chases with the K high flush draw is going to fold this if the river is say the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], you guys can be so funny, hero made enough on the flop and turn to pay $1200 on the river everytime this happens.

Mack

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I don't think the king High flush calls $1200 here.... And we don't know that villain has the king high flush either, could be any flush lower than that. Betting this high is silly. Queen High flush certainly doesn't call $1200, but might call $100 or $200. Same with Jack high on down.

[TheMainEvent]

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Of course the guy who chases with the K high flush draw is going to fold this if the river is say the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], you guys can be so funny, hero made enough on the flop and turn to pay $1200 on the river everytime this happens.

Mack

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Queen High flush certainly doesn't call $1200, but might call $100 or $200. Same with Jack high on down.

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Have you ever played 1/2 live?

[mackthefork]

I agree the bet is too big, but you really think he folds the 2nd nuts? I mean this is like hero potting it again then folding to a reraise because he sees there are 3 hands out there that beat him, a little fanciful in my opinion, sometimes we give people too much credit.

Mack

[PokerFink]

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Betting this high is silly. Queen High flush certainly doesn't call $1200, but might call $100 or $200. Same with Jack high on down.

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LOL. Do you play 1/2nl live?

I've seen people make MUCH worse calls than calling a huge overbet with a 2nd nut flush.

Try: $150 dollar pot, a $600 raise all-in on the river, called by a low straight on a board that has three spades AND is paired.

[augie00]

damn. that sucks. lol. i had to read your post like 4 times to figure out why the hell you were upset.

[Mempho]

Yeh...I actually started to argue with the dealer before I thought to check the board real carefully. I was absolutely stunned.

[TheMainEvent]

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Yeh...I actually started to argue with the dealer before I thought to check the board real carefully. I was absolutely stunned.

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This must have been pretty funny for everyone else at the table

[angst]

With that riverbet you will only get called by better hands.

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Please explain the riverbet. Whether or not you thought you had the nuts is irrelevant here, also that you saw him getting ready to call a bet since you could not know how large a bet he was willing to call. I just do not understand your action here and what you were thinking.

[Mempho]

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Please explain the riverbet. Whether or not you thought you had the nuts is irrelevant here, also that you saw him getting ready to call a bet since you could not know how large a bet he was willing to call. I just do not understand your action here and what you were thinking.

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OK, there seems to be a lot of disagreement on the river bet and I understand that it looks absolutely ridiculous given the amount of money in the pot.

This hand occured in 2003 and my NL style in 2003 was quite laggy.

I had made a couple of setup plays in hopes of getting the big stacks to call me when I had the nuts. I had made several large bluffs and shown the cards as advertising. In addition, the big stack had been trying to use his position on my to reraise me with air. I'm sure I laid down incorrectly at least once or twice and I caught him once. Anyway, it has devolved into what could have been perceived as a small pissing contest (though we are still quite friendly between hands). I decided to pull the trigger is less than a half second after seeing that he liked the river card. I knew it would look ridiculous and make it look like I was trying to buy it. Of course, I actually thought I had the nuts here and was stunned to find out that I didn't at showdown. Given the player's background, he probably would have called with any straight, set, or flush.

I ran into him the next day and we spoke about the hand and he stated that he was lucky because "if any other heart had fallen..."

Out of context, it looks like a ridiculous bet a donk would make. I have made these bets several times, however, and gotten called probably half the time (and never lost) before this.

Basically, I knew that he liked the card, I thought I had the nuts, and I took at shot at getting called for the big money instead of something like $100.