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Re: I want to see if this is possible
A playoff in college football would be great and would really give us a true meter of how good teams are. I have already explaind why it will never happen
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I'll rephrase it give me one good reason why there should not be a playoff [/ QUOTE ] There's already a playoff. It's called the regular season. What if there was a playoff this year? It's clear that USC and Texas are 1 and 2 this year - if a playoff was in place, either of those teams could lose, and then your national championship game isn't matching the two best teams. Also, if it's a 4-team playoff, who are the other two teams? Penn St, Va Tech, LSU? What about an 8 team playoff, who gets left out - OSU, ND, Oregon, Miami, Auburn? There's no perfect system, but the one in place still keeps the regular season games extremely important. |
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I am almost positive that the OP is too young to remember 1991. Anyone old enough to remember Washington and Miami not playing for the title knows that the BCS is an improvement on the old system. [/ QUOTE ] Let's not forget the spanking Woodson and Griese would have given Nebraska in the 1997 title game. |
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I'll rephrase it give me one good reason why there should not be a playoff [/ QUOTE ] That's not rephrasing. That's asking a completely different question. |
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What if there was a playoff this year? It's clear that USC and Texas are 1 and 2 this year - if a playoff was in place, either of those teams could lose, and then your national championship game isn't matching the two best teams.
Just as the Super Bowl, World Series, NCAA hoops final, etc. often don't match the two best teams. Should we eliminate all those playoff systems? Also, if it's a 4-team playoff, who are the other two teams? Penn St, Va Tech, LSU? What about an 8 team playoff, who gets left out - OSU, ND, Oregon, Miami, Auburn? Obviously, there will always be controversy. But the point is to decide who the BEST team is, and give all teams with a legitimate claim to that title a chance to decide it on the field. IMO, an 8-team playoff offers that. There's no perfect system, but the one in place still keeps the regular season games extremely important. Not really. Once a team loses a single game, they know their title hopes are pretty much snapped. With an 8-team playoff system, the mid-late season games would still be absolutely crucial for a bunch of teams (and not just to see whether they go to the Peach or the Alamo Bowl). |
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Penn State and Va Tech clearly get the 3 and 4 spots, this year, IMHO.
3 years back, letting Oklahoma, LSU or USC get shafted absolutely sucks. Letting Nebraska, or Oregon get shafted a year before that sucks. 4 team-playoff would keep all of the mystique of the regular season. The 4th best team in the nation won't lose more than 2 games, and it's much better to have dispute over the 4th best team than 2nd best. Having a tier 2 team get shafted is much better than having a tier 1 team get shafted. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'll rephrase it give me one good reason why there should not be a playoff [/ QUOTE ] There's already a playoff. It's called the regular season. What if there was a playoff this year? It's clear that USC and Texas are 1 and 2 this year - if a playoff was in place, either of those teams could lose, and then your national championship game isn't matching the two best teams. Also, if it's a 4-team playoff, who are the other two teams? Penn St, Va Tech, LSU? What about an 8 team playoff, who gets left out - OSU, ND, Oregon, Miami, Auburn? There's no perfect system, but the one in place still keeps the regular season games extremely important. [/ QUOTE ] So tell me, at what point in last year's season was Auburn played off? How about Utah? Just because it will work this year, doesn't mean that it is the best system possible (and it is an improvement over the old system). It would be possible to have an undisputed national champion (with everyone getting a chance at it) without lenghtening the season at all. The college football people just don't want to do it. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'll rephrase it give me one good reason why there should not be a playoff [/ QUOTE ] There's already a playoff. It's called the regular season. What if there was a playoff this year? It's clear that USC and Texas are 1 and 2 this year - if a playoff was in place, either of those teams could lose, and then your national championship game isn't matching the two best teams. Also, if it's a 4-team playoff, who are the other two teams? Penn St, Va Tech, LSU? What about an 8 team playoff, who gets left out - OSU, ND, Oregon, Miami, Auburn? There's no perfect system, but the one in place still keeps the regular season games extremely important. [/ QUOTE ] Easy way to have a legitimate national championship: Realign college football into four geographic regions with 30 teams in each. Divide these regions into 10 team confrences based on rankings (top ten teams in Conference A, sencond ten in Conference B, bottom ten in Conference C). Regular Season Teams play everyone in their conference once (plus 2 [or three if you want a 12 game regular season] non-conference games to preserve traditional rivalries). Conference championship week In the week that is now the conference championship week, have the 4 conference A champions play against each other (1 vs 4, and 2 vs 3 based on any ranking system), these would be the national semi-finals. (The same thing could also be done for the lower conference to determine a B and C champion) Also in this week would be promotion/regalation games. The last place team in each conference would be automatically regalated to the lower conference the following year. First place teams in lower conferences would be automatically promoted to the higher conference the following year. The second to last team from the higher conference would play against the second place team from the lower conference to determine if there wuld be an additional promotion/regalation. Bowl games the bowl games would be mostly the same as there is now, except that the national championship game would be between the winners of the two national semi-finals. The loosers of the national semi-finals, and other teams with winning records would play in other (meaningless) bowl games just like they do now. This would be awsome, but of course it will never happen. If it were to start next year, the initial alignment might look like this: North Conference A Ohio State Notre Dame Wisconsin Michigan Northwestern Minnesota Iowa Louisville Iowa State Kansas East Conference A Penn State Virginia Tech Miami (FL) West Virginia Georgia Florida Boston College Georgia Tech South Carolina Clemson South Conference A Texas LSU Auburn TCU Texas Tech Alabama Oklahoma Texas A&M Tennessee Baylor West Conference A USC Oregon UCLA Colorado Nebraska Fresno State Arizona State California Boise State Stanford North Conference B Purdue Missouri Michigan State Toledo Northern Illinois Central Michigan Kansas State Miami (OH) Western Michigan Indiana East Conference B Florida State North Carolina South Florida North Carolina State Virginia UCF Maryland Rutgers Wake Forest Pittsburgh South Conference B Tulsa Southern Miss Vanderbilt Memphis Houston Oklahoma State Louisiana Tech Arkansas Southern Methodist UAB West Conference B Colorado State Nevada Brigham Young Oregon State New Mexico UTEP Utah San Diego State Washington State Wyoming North Conference C Bowling Green Ball State Akron Cincinnati Ohio Illinois Eastern Michigan Kentucky Marshall Kent State East Confernece C Connecticut Navy Army East Carolina Florida International Syracuse Florida Atlantic Duke Temple Buffalo South conference C Louisiana-Lafayette Arkansas State Middle Tennessee Mississippi Mississippi State Louisiana-Monroe Troy Tulane Rice North Texas West Conference C Arizona Air Force Hawaii Washington UNLV Utah State San Jose State Idaho New Mexico State |
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Easy way to have a legitimate national championship: [/ QUOTE ] What is easy about that? That is a total overhaul of College football, that is not easy. |
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[ QUOTE ] Easy way to have a legitimate national championship: [/ QUOTE ] What is easy about that? That is a total overhaul of College football, that is not easy. [/ QUOTE ] True, but if it were to happen (and it won't), it would make college football the best spectator sport in the world by far. |
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