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Old 11-09-2005, 02:18 PM
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I raise 3xBB here. Calling is too weak of a play to make and if you hit an ace on the flop after you called you still will not know no where you stand. Know one has show any real strength yet. If there's still 9 players left at this level in a turbo that means the table is super tight so a raise here most likely would take the pot down right there.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:22 PM
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I raise 3xBB here.

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You'll be left with t900. What will you do if he calls and you whiff the flop?

I think this is clearly push/fold.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:22 PM
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Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:48 PM
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Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.

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I think the fact that he has <8 BB is plenty reason. And I don't know that ATo is a marginal hand from the CO with 1 limper.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:50 PM
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Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.

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I think the fact that he has <8 BB is plenty reason. And I don't know that ATo is a marginal hand from the CO with 1 limper.

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I disagree on both points. So, I guess there's nothing more to be said.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:59 PM
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Sure there is. What range would limp this hand? I say it's AJ-A2, 88-22, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT.

I like my chances against all these except for AJ. So, if called, pushing puts you in a coin-flip or better generally. If you push and he folds, you pick up 1/3 your stack in dead money. I think the dead money tips the scales.

I'd like to know what range you put him on.

Note - my first reaction was same as yours, but then I thought about his potential limping hands and I now go the other way.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:11 PM
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Sure there is. What range would limp this hand? I say it's AJ-A2, 88-22, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT.

I like my chances against all these except for AJ. So, if called, pushing puts you in a coin-flip or better generally. If you push and he folds, you pick up 1/3 your stack in dead money. I think the dead money tips the scales.

I'd like to know what range you put him on.

Note - my first reaction was same as yours, but then I thought about his potential limping hands and I now go the other way.

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It doesn't matter what *I* would do in villain's position.

OP said limper hasn't been aggressive. So he could very easily be dominating me, and there's still people behind me to act.

I find a better spot. ATo is just too shaky against anything but a weaker A. I'd have to be down below 5BB to go to war here.
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