In a gun-free/defense free society this is all that would happen...

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That was quite a sleight of hand. First you say we have achieved a gun-free society, then someone comes up with a gun!

Also I was wondering, do you typically bring a gun to work?

[etgryphon]

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That was quite a sleight of hand. First you say we have achieved a gun-free society, then a criminal comes up with a gun!


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FYP

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Also I was wondering, do you typically bring a gun to work?

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Yes, I do. Can't take it into the building because I work for the Feds so it stays in the car.

-Gryph

[theweatherman]

you leave a loaded gun in your car all day?!?!? WTF man, when your car gets broken into one day the theif is going to get your stereo AND a DEADLY WEAPON. Im glad to see that you are taking steps to keep weapons out of criminal hand s with your awesome gun storage.

[etgryphon]

Exactly.

If I was allowed to "bear" my arms like the Constitution says then we wouldn't have a problem.

Gun Control is just feeding the problem as you so aptly pointed out.

-Gryph

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you leave a loaded gun in your car all day?!?!?

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What good is it if its unloaded?

[DVaut1]

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What good is it if its unloaded?

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Actually, according to some here, guns are ONLY for deterrent value, and aren't bought to kill. So I think it's a good question, but apparently some think an unloaded gun has as much value as a loaded one. I wonder what the hell those guys even buy bullets/ammo for. Maybe it's just to prove they really (and by really, I mean don't) mean business.

On the surface, it may seem like a petty point; yet I think gun right supporters should just come out admit they like their guns as lethal as possible (it's probably not a very big concession for some) - and may shed light on why they disapprove of some gun controls.

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That was quite a sleight of hand. First you say we have achieved a gun-free society, then someone comes up with a gun!

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Past attempts to create an alcohol-free society, and present attempts to create a society free from illicit drugs, have both failed abominably.

In light of this, does ANYONE realistically think that we could create a gun-free society, where criminals could not get guns?

Criminals will always have guns, regardless of whether or not the rest of us do.

If guns were to be banned in the USA, guns would simply be smuggled across international borders, just as gargantuan quantities of cocaine and heroin are so smuggled today (and that despite the existence of current draconian penalties for so doing).

What it comes down to, really, is economics. The more illegal a desired thing becomes, the greater the monetary rewards for those who provide it illicitly. Hence the vicious cycle. Hence criminals will always be able to obtain guns.

All a "gun-free society" would mean, is that members of legal society would be more defenseless against members of illegal society (so to speak). Doubtless that is the point which the original poster was trying to make.

but aren't there virtually gun-free societies in other countries?

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but aren't there virtually gun-free societies in other countries?

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Fair question and perhaps there are. But if so, that is them and we is us;-)

Since we couldn't create an alcohol-free or drug-free society, why in the world would anyone think that we would be able to create a gun-free society?

[DVaut1]

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but aren't there virtually gun-free societies in other countries?

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why in the world would anyone think that we would be able to create a gun-free society?

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Didn't he just answer this? Certainly, such societies have been 'created' (although I'm hesitant to use the word 'created', but it's your wording, not mine). 'Gun-free' might be impractical - but there are certainly functioning societies that have very strict gun control (England, for example).