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Old 09-21-2005, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Another AK hand, check raised on turn, check to me on river...

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3-bet the turn. this could be a draw or a K-weak kicker. if that schmuck is playing K5 (or any other lower kicker), i'll get my money back soon enough that i'll risk the extra BB. plus if he misses on the river, he isn't paying you off.

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Yikes, are we that sure that we aren't beat here? Turn check-raises usually aren't full of [censored].
I don't mind a call-down (although the river check is puzzling), but I think 3-betting here is spewing.

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I think it really depends on the player. A whole lot of guys at 2/4 are limping KQ,KJ type hands and then waiting until the turn to raise when they flop a pair. I know we don't have a read - and that would really help - but, I don't think a 3-bet is horrible against a 2/4 unknown.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Another AK hand, check raised on turn, check to me on river...

If he has a small set or Kx crap (2 pair) then your screwed if you 3 bet. I think these hands are more likely than K6. But he could very well have KJ or KQ here. I see a lot of these young punks play tricky and check raise the turn with top pair. Call down you lose the least when your behind and win the most when your ahead if he is bluffing.

And yes bet the damn river if this fool checks to you. Its telling you "uh, oh he has a king with a better kicker".
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: Another AK hand, check raised on turn, check to me on river...

i'd bet and expect it to get called, raised, and folded to with approximately equal frequency. a read would help you out.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Another AK hand, check raised on turn, check to me on river...

River bet seems fine. I would've probably 3-bet the turn - but that would've depended on a read of Villian.

Two thoughts on your post though:

- Stop the action before you're decision when you want input on it. On the river the word "Hero" is in red type - which, to the observant shows us that you actually bet. Posters will notice these things which can unconciously influence the way they analyze a hand.

- Don't include the final pot size if you're not showing the entire hand. By looking at the final pot size on this hand we can see that Hero bet the river and Villian called. Thi will also skew the analyses.
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