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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
The first mistake is usually the least costly. Here you are UTG betting a draw and then two reraisers behind you. The last one made a very HEALTHY raise and he's got position also.
Just wondering, Question1: Why bet AJs UTG here? (That 3BB is a weak 'come on in' kind of raise.) More important, Question2: Why call 2 reraisers here, BIG raises, before the flop with only a draw, and out of position for the rest of the hand? All the subsequent (later street) questions are just derived from these core questions. I'd have limped and folded to the 2 re-raisers pre-flop here. Ya ya, I know. |
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
AJ is mediocre hand in good position, utg it shouldn't be played at all never mind raised with.
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
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This topic is hypothetical, ie: a "what if" question. Positions don't matter. P.S.: AJ is a very good hand. How could anyone fold AJs? [/ QUOTE ] Position always matters in poker. And AJs is a good hand to see the flop cheaply with, not a great hand you need to be calling a large raise with, especially out of position (which again, is relevant). |
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
On a side note, in pot limit omaha you correctly fold the nuts on the flop plenty of times.
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
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[ QUOTE ] On a side note, in pot limit omaha you correctly fold the nuts on the flop plenty of times. [/ QUOTE ] I barely know how to play Omaha, let alone strategies. But please do explain. [/ QUOTE ] Lets say you start with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the cut-off seat, the flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. There is a pot sized bet, a call, and a pot sized raise when it comes to you. You fold. The other three people figure to have atleast two made straights between them, the flush draw, redraws to a higher straight, a set... Any card that isn't 2-6 without a club ruins your hand completely. |
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
By the time the river hit you should have been raising enough to have at least one guy all-in. the board pairing would have scared me but by then, I would have had all of my chips in the pot so it would have been to late to fold. there was to much raising to not place a huge bet before the river.
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Re: Folding the nuts... would you... ?
All-in on the turn probably would have saved you from the previous mistakes. Most people would put you slow playing a monster after scooping 4 pots and not raising on the flop
Note: "His call preflop out of position" He was only up against the blinds? If so, he was going to be "in position" for subsequent rounds. |
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