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Old 03-02-2005, 11:28 AM
Evan Evan is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

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i'm inclined to say calling is your worst option.

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Folding is the worst option by far.
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Old 03-02-2005, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

i'm thinking i was wrong.

by "thinking" i mean "knowing"

i will make a concerted effort to not post when half my brain isn't at the table. i think bernie covered this nicely.
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Old 03-02-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

Given the opponents, there can be a big difference between their raise and when they 3 bet or cap.

I'd call and see what the next guy does. He isn't 3 betting w/o a flush. He's weak tight. If they continue to get active, you fold. Why raise? Give them 2 more bets to define their hands.

A case could be made for raising, then if they only call, you can fold if bet into on the turn, but if checked to, then you can check behind taking the free card. Your 3 bet could freeze up a paranoid small flush.

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there's probably nothing wrong with folding, as at least one of these shmucks has a heart.


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Just because they have 'a' heart? Im not folding because of that.

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Old 03-02-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

This is tricky i think im 3 betting and if capped im ditching on the turn if my boat doesnt hit. You can just randomly say someone has a flush on a 1 suit flop just because there was a bet and a raise this could easily be Mid pair for BB and TPTK for EP guy. Although based on your reads EP might be a set and you might be drawing to 2 kings. so this is really read dependant. But with no reads I'm three-betting and getting away on the turn if capped on the flop
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

I agree with chief I think calling is the best option. I want see what the turn action is before I let this hand go. If a non heart falls and it is one bet to you I would raise here and fold to a 3 bet if it was two cold to me might let it go right there. If your turn raise is just called and another non heart falls on the river I would probably call one bet or check it through.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:41 AM
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I would probably call one bet or check it through.


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I think checking the river through sucks if there isn't much action on the turn and two non hearts fall.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

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I would probably call one bet or check it through.


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I think checking the river through sucks if there isn't much action on the turn and two non hearts fall.

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You might be right the only hands you beat are one pair hands. If they paid off on the turn they will pay off on the river. If I'm check raised I'm folding.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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If I'm check raised I'm folding.


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I agree that this is probably the right play if check/raised on the river.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:51 AM
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$3-$6 game last night. Table is fairly weak-tight from what I've observed, a dream game, really. I limp in late position behind two other limpers (one EP, one MP) with
K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. BB checks, and we see the flop:

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets, EP limper raises, MP limper folds. 7 1/2 SB in the pot, and it's 2 to me. I don't have any specific reads on either player still in the hand, as I've only been at the table for 15 minutes or so.

Your play?

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Old 03-02-2005, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 on a one-suited flop

I wouldn't play this hand, but I don't see how limping in here is a huge mistake if you are a decent postflop player.
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