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Old 12-10-2004, 05:20 PM
Hallett Hallett is offline
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Default Re: Just a quick note on why I did not 3-bet

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What makes you think UTG+1 folds if you 3-bet when he already called two cold? I think this is a very easy 3-bet, especially with your reads.

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If it is heads up, I three-bet, but I am pretty sure (mostly sure?) that button will cap. UTG+1 will figure out that he is against a set, and drawing dead. This guy can think, albeit a bit slow. He is very capable of folding to the re-raise and cap.
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Just a quick note on why I did not 3-bet

He must be more than a bit slow if he hasn't figured out that his Tx is no good by the first turn bet&raise, especially after the two previous streets being capped.
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Just a quick note on why I did not 3-bet

You would have gotten two more bets from the button, instead of the two bets on the river from UTG. And that is only if UTG folds. He already called two cold, I don't see how he is going to muck his hand at this point to your bet and the button's cap behind him, and that is extra bets for you.
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Old 12-10-2004, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Just a quick note on why I did not 3-bet

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You would have gotten two more bets from the button, instead of the two bets on the river from UTG. And that is only if UTG folds. He already called two cold, I don't see how he is going to muck his hand at this point to your bet and the button's cap behind him, and that is extra bets for you.

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To everyone who says to three bet the turn, I agree. I was not certain at the time; maybe 60% call, 40% three-bet, which is why I posted the hand. Your arguments are all very convincing, and helped a lot. Thanks.
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Huge pot, what is my turn action?

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Do I three-bet?

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Hero........calls [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] .

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You know the answer to this question, don't you?
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Huge pot, what is my turn action?

I think you gotta 3 bet the turn. You've got middle set and unless he's got TT, you're fine. You're clearly ahead of the other caller so theres definatly equity in a raise there.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Huge pot, what is my turn action?

3-bet the turn. I like the river raise also.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Huge pot, what is my turn action?

Slight thread hijack since there is consensus about the turn 3-bet.


What is Hero's action if the river is a non diamond J or 6?

1. Check & call a bet from the button
2. Bet & call a raise from the button
3. Bet & fold to a raise from the button
4. Check & fold to a bet from button

It seems like a check/call situation, though I could see UTG betting and the button raising, forcing us to face two bets on the river with middle set and a possible straight on the board.

Or the button may just call an UTG bet/raise to get an overcall from us.

I don't see how we could fold even if the button calls in front of us.
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