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Old 08-10-2004, 06:07 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Old 08-10-2004, 06:59 PM
GuyOnTilt GuyOnTilt is offline
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Hey Emoney,

I'm afraid you're probably not going to find anybody to stake you here. Like Schneids said, you have no credibility here, so I doubt anybody's going to be willing to risk the money. I'm currently staking two 2+2 posters, but they're posters that I know and trust and am confident would be significant winners in games higher than they were currently at but would be able to with my added money. Your situation is a lot different and I wouldn't get your hopes up.

i don't really want to keep playing the low limit game. it's forumulaic and a grind

If you think that playing 15/30 and higher isn't, you're very wrong.

build up my bankroll to the previously mentioned 5200. playing 3/6 then 5/10 then 10/20 and taking occasional stabs at 15/30.

I would not want, nor would I encourage anybody else, to stake anybody who would sit 15/30 with $5200. Stakers (well, at least me) want their investments to be low-risk and high-return.

My advice would be for you to build up your own roll by playing 3/6 and 5/10. If you think you would still want to be staked a few months down the road, start posting here and build up some credibility and then -maybe- somebody would be willing to stake you given enough time. I really doubt anybody would right now though, but like you said there's no harm in asking. Best of luck to you.

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Old 08-10-2004, 07:11 PM
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so after a few paychecks i was out of the hole with my friends and i wanted to play poker. i looked for a stake in a lot of different places including asking my favorite pro. you can imagine my surprise when he said yes. he started me out with 1500.

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I can verify this part of his story with about a 95% confidence rate.
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Old 08-10-2004, 07:22 PM
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Hey Emoney,

I'm afraid you're probably not going to find anybody to stake you here. Like Schneids said, you have no credibility here, so I doubt anybody's going to be willing to risk the money. I'm currently staking two 2+2 posters, but they're posters that I know and trust and am confident would be significant winners in games higher than they were currently at but would be able to with my added money. Your situation is a lot different and I wouldn't get your hopes up.

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i knew it was a long shot going in. my hopes aren't up by any means. i'll get along either way. it would be a favor more than a necessity.


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If you think that playing 15/30 and higher isn't, you're very wrong.

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i don't it's still a grind, but i'm sure you know the gist of what i'm saying.


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I would not want, nor would I encourage anybody else, to stake anybody who would sit 15/30 with $5200. Stakers (well, at least me) want their investments to be low-risk and high-return.

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when i say occasional, i mean really occasionally. as in one buy-in maybe once a week. i wasn't a "15/30 player" by any means.

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My advice would be for you to build up your own roll by playing 3/6 and 5/10. If you think you would still want to be staked a few months down the road, start posting here and build up some credibility and then -maybe- somebody would be willing to stake you given enough time. I really doubt anybody would right now though, but like you said there's no harm in asking. Best of luck to you.

GoT

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thanks for the words. i'm sure that's the road i'll be going on. but if i do build my own roll i don't think i'll be looking for a stake considering.
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Old 08-10-2004, 07:35 PM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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I'm currently staking two 2+2 posters, but they're posters that I know and trust and am confident would be significant winners in games higher than they were currently at.

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Hey, I thought we agreed to keep our arrangement secret.

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Old 08-11-2004, 05:39 AM
MrPoker MrPoker is offline
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I will be happy to stake you just as soon as I sell the toll bridge I purchased last year from someone in a chat room.
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Old 08-11-2004, 12:19 PM
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I disagree, and think you should repost this in the shorthanded forum and see if anyone at all there thinks 2200 is enough for the 5/10 6 max. 220 big bets in a shorthanded limit game is low. find me one good shorthanded player (who is not also you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )who thinks 220 BB is enough roll. your ROR with 220 BB in any shorthanded game is not trivial.

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Old 08-11-2004, 12:35 PM
J.A.Sucker J.A.Sucker is offline
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I know what you are saying, and 2200 is a little short, but not terrible. I have a good feeling (and statistics) that something like 2500 is enough for those games to ensure a reasonable chance of survival. If things get tough, then play some 3/6. The parlay of going broke at both is actually very small.

FWIW, I think that many posters in the SH forum play too aggressively for a 6-handed game, and that's why their swings are so high; mine are actually pretty low in the 5-10 game. This is gambling, after all, and you have to decide how much risk is acceptable for you. If this were 25000 and not 2500, then I'd be more inclined to agree with you (given the same game conditions), but the fact is, it's not very hard for ANYONE to scrape together a thousand or so if they really need it. Also, I know that people would be shocked as to how small my flucuations are in the 5/10 game at Party, but that's all I will say about it, since I'm not into this stats thing. People are litterally giving their money away in these games, so you don't really need much money to take it yourself. If you are constantly swinging through huge sums, then you could probably do with making some changes (tightening up from the $2 SB is probably #1). In the 10-20, the swings are muuuuch higher, as the players are (1) better and (2) much more willing to make raises on big streets (these aren't one in the same, necessarily).
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Old 08-11-2004, 04:41 PM
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I've played a ton at the 5-10 6max and J.A. is right on the money. The game is so much more passive than the 10-20 that for a good player the swings are very minimal. FWIW, for my last 50,000 hands 55BB is my worst downswing. The difference between the 5-10 and 10-20 short really is night and day. As far as bankroll requirements for the two...for a good player (2+BB/100 hands) I would say 2000 is fine for the 5-10, while I'd suggest around 8000 for the 10-20.

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Old 08-11-2004, 05:41 PM
mntbikr15 mntbikr15 is offline
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I will be happy to stake you just as soon as I sell the toll bridge I purchased last year from someone in a chat room.

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Come on are comments like that really needed. He said he realizes what hes asking is a long shot.
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