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Old 06-15-2004, 01:33 AM
dfscott dfscott is offline
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Update: Nine days ago, I moved up to .25/.50 early (at 200BB), so today I breathed a sigh of relief by hitting 300BB at the new level. It was very tough adjusting to the move, but I now feel more comfortable here than I did at .05/.10 -- the players seem much more predictable and my plays more clear (of course, it may be just experience, too). I have discovered that I play much better at this level if I play only 2 tables instead of my normal 3, because I'm actually trying to steal blinds, semi-bluff, etc. which require that I get at least a basic read on the players and/or table. TPTK is worth a lot more at these levels because you're not called down with junk as much, so I've been playing them very agressively and it's paid off well.

In addition, I'm also revising my goal: I was originally trying to move to .50/1 by the end of the year, but now I think that's probably too easy (of course, I probably just guaranteed myself a huge downswing now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). I now want to move to .5/1 by the end of September. I'm at $160 and while my original plan was to earn $350 so I could pull $300 and still leave some money at PS, I've decide to move to Party as soon as I have a big enough BR and just pull all the cash out and then fund back into PS from PP if I decide I want to do that.

Here's where my stats stand now:

Start Limit - .05/.10 (3/23/2004)
Current Limit - .10/.25 (moved up 6/5/2004)
Hands - 11,776
Earnings - 626BB
Rate - 5.32BB/100 (down .02 since last update)
VP$IP - 20.60 (down 0.1 since last update)
PFR% - 7.39 (up 0.3 since last update)
Agression - 0.97 (up 0.6 since last update)

Other than my BB/100 (which I attribute to adjusting to the new level), I feel good about the movements in all my stats.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:07 AM
Tosh Tosh is offline
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Level Dollars Date Reached
1/2 $550 5/31/04
2/4 $1100
3/6 $1650
5/10 $2750
10/20 $5500
15/30 $8250
30/60 $16500

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I suggest a further remodelling.

10/20 $6000
15/30 $10000
30/60 $24000
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:55 AM
ZootMurph ZootMurph is offline
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Wish I had such a structured system.

I am playing 2 1/2 and 2 .5/1 games now, and I'm at $500. When I hit $600, I'll go all 1/2 games. When I have the bankroll (~$1200) and feel like I'm ready, I'll go to 2/4 (and when my stats back me up with a minimum of 10k 1/2 hands).

Does anyone incorporate tournament play in their plans? I play a few multi tournaments a week (was playing one a day, but I'm just not a good enough tournament player to continue to increase my bankroll playing so many tournaments). I usually play the Party 5+1 on Saturday and Sunday, and I try to qualify for the Sat 200+15 on the 9+1 multi satellites. Qualified through them 2 out of 4 weeks, but got kicked early both times [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:34 PM
ZootMurph ZootMurph is offline
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Default Re: Microlimits Progress Quest: Post plans/updates/setbacks here.

Since my last post, my plans have changed.

I just won a PP 30+3 for $4k, so I now have the bankroll for 5/10. Not going to play it yet, however.

I'm now going to play 2/4 exclusively (unless I see consistent losses), until I've played 10k 2/4 hands AND am up at least 300 BB. I'll be starting out at 2 tables, and once I'm comfortable (if I get comfortable) with the play there I'll move up to 3 then 4 tables.

When I hit my 10k hands/300 BB goals, I will try a single 5/10 table and see how that goes. At that point, if I can continue to compete, I will again increase my number of tables, etc. Again, I am looking for a minimum of 10k hands/300 BB at this level before considering the 10/20 level... and it will continue in this same fashion... my goal always being to play a minimum of 10k hands and earn a minimum of 300 BB. Also, I will need to have at least 300BB for the next level in the bankroll before moving up.

Ultimately, if I can become consistent enough to replace my real job income, I will begin to do this full time as my real job. As I told my wife, this is obviously a long way off. I'd need to play just over 40 hours a week making 3 BB/100 at 4 2/4 tables to do this. AND I'd need to improve and learn to play higher limit tables.

Over the past 2 months, I'm making 9 BB/100 at .5/1 and 5 BB/100 at 1/2 playing a 500 hands a day combined (2-3 hours a day with 4 tables running). I have over 15k hands at .5/1 and over 6k hands at 1/2 (full table only).
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Old 06-20-2004, 03:12 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Contgrats man!!!

I've been playing lots of tounaments, up almost 100 between that and some juicy ring sessions, and I've been toying with entering some of those to see if I can kick start my BR. I fear you may be a bad influence.
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Old 06-23-2004, 02:18 AM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Sat down and played 1/2 for the first time since I got my ass rolled earlier. I'd won enough 10/1 SNGs to have my bankroll at about $460. I was down about 10BB at a regular game, made some lousy plays.

Then I sat down at one of the Bad Beat Jackpot tables. I didn't to much until a 2+2er (cold_cash) sat down. Somehow his being there made me more concious of not making embrassing plays (like on the other table where with A2 I lead and Ace high flop and got like 4 callers and still kept betting until A9 took my money) and really played well. My BR is up to about 500, which means that I'm only 50 bucks away from where I started at 1/2.

I'm still on my "having fun this money" but if my fun keeps up at the pace it's been at, I should be more than back up to my goal, with the added benefit of not having to dump any more money back into party.

The added benefit is that I'm really enjoying the SNGs, and I'm pretty good at them, so that's a nice way to add to the BR as well.
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Microlimits Progress Quest: Post plans/updates/setbacks here.

I haven't been very involved in this community so far, and it's probably past time that I changed that. Lets start with some goals. My immediate goal is to play a second 10k hands at .5/1 while maintaining or increasing my winrate. In practice, this means working hard to improve my understanding of the tactical and strategic context of individual decisions. Or less pretentiously, I want to turn down the suck and learn to play more better.

Short term goals include figuring out how to play more than my current 2 tables without drastically affecting my winrate, and building my bankroll to the point where I'm comfortably over-funded to move up limits when I feel ready.

My medium term goal is to find a comfortable combination of tables and limits that will bring in an average of $1000/mo. This will allow me to continue to put a reasonable amount of time into this project for as long as it proves both interesting and profitable.

My long term goals include a little beach house, a comfortable beach chair, and a wireless internet connection..
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: Microlimits Progress Quest: Post plans/updates/setbacks here.

Hit 3.5K a few weeks ago, so went to play some 5/10.

These were my stats:

Hands - Winn/Loss - Combined.
208 | -23 | -23/208
201 | +129 | +106/409
299 | -151 | -45/708
273 | +91 | +46/981
66 | +227 | +273/1047
149 | -208 | +65/1196
404 | +224 | +289/1600
75 |+296 | At this point I really liked 5/10 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
207 |-328 |
403 |-270 | -78/2285
150 |-196 |
127 |-227 |-501/2562 or -20/100.

My roll is around 3K now and I´ll probably stay at 3/6 till it hits 4K, as I´m more comfy with 400BBs [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Have fun and good luck with your goals.

-Trix
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:46 AM
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At first I thought those were BB's but I guess that's actually dollar amounts right? Cause I was going: holy crap you have huge variance!!!!!

--Zetack
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Old 06-23-2004, 11:02 AM
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Then I sat down at one of the Bad Beat Jackpot tables. I didn't to much until a 2+2er (cold_cash) sat down. Somehow his being there made me more concious of not making embrassing plays (like on the other table where with A2 I lead and Ace high flop and got like 4 callers and still kept betting until A9 took my money) and really played well. My BR is up to about 500, which means that I'm only 50 bucks away from where I started at 1/2.

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Hey Dids. I've noticed a few posts of yours regarding 1/2 and the new 1/2 bad beat tables at Party. I have been unable to beat the "normal" 1/2 tables consistently so I moved over to the bad beat tables recently and felt right at home. These are, IMO, just like the .5/1 tables. It feels good to be building the roll, but to be honest I'm a little worried that I'm missing a lot of very important lessons that I could get at the tighter "normal" 1/2's.

Basically, I'm positive I can build my roll very quickly at these tables and will be able to move up to 2/4, but I'm also pretty sure that when/if I get up to the 3/6 or 5/10 games I will have wished that I spent more time playing the tighter 1/2's.

Just curious if you (or anyone else) feel the same about this?
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