100 NL 6max vs. 50 NL 6max

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he didn't, i did. I said one of the differences between 100NL and 50NL is that at the higher stakes you'll every once in a while run into a player who is very good, this may be because playing professionally at 100NL is possible while at 50NL it probably isn't.

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it's possible to play NL50 professionally, it's possible to play NL100 professionally, but nobody who treats poker as a "full-time job" is going to play either of them for very long.

a good player can easily make 30+/hr multitabling NL50, i'd consider that a decent wage. of course, if you're good enough to do that you aren't staying at NL50 for very long if you put a significant part of your winnings into building your bankroll as any reasonable pro would.

there are probably a lot of part-time "pro" college students playing 100 NL (who may be as good or better as people making a "real" living), but basically zero full time pros who arent students.

[Hoopster81]

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but basically zero full time pros who arent students.

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this is wrong

[Sephus]

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but basically zero full time pros who arent students.

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this is wrong

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and they havent moved up because...?

[teamdonkey]

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but basically zero full time pros who arent students.

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this is wrong

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and they havent moved up because...?

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to me, moving up when poker is your sole source of income seems like the scariest thing imaginable. Especially if you went pro at the low end of the spectrum (100NL) and you need every penny to pay the bills. Maybe not the smartest long term decision, but professional poker probably isn't either.

Just playing devil's advocate here... I haven't seen anyone at 100NL that i could point at and say "that guy is definately doing this to pay the rent". But i HAVE seen a couple guys that could, and for all i know might be doing just that.

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It has been my experience that 50NL is a tougher game than 100NL. Take that for what it's worth, as it is based on feel and observation. I don't have enough hands at 50NL to make it statistically valid.

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[Sephus]

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It has been my experience that 50NL is a tougher game than 100NL. Take that for what it's worth, as it is based on feel and observation. I don't have enough hands at 50NL to make it statistically valid.

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yeah you're probably looking at a sample size issue. most people have more success in bb/hand at nl50. but they're close enough that results like yours arent all that rare.

[Sephus]

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but basically zero full time pros who arent students.

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this is wrong

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and they havent moved up because...?

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to me, moving up when poker is your sole source of income seems like the scariest thing imaginable. Especially if you went pro at the low end of the spectrum (100NL) and you need every penny to pay the bills. Maybe not the smartest long term decision, but professional poker probably isn't either.

Just playing devil's advocate here... I haven't seen anyone at 100NL that i could point at and say "that guy is definately doing this to pay the rent". But i HAVE seen a couple guys that could, and for all i know might be doing just that.

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if they need every penny to pay the rent, they need to play more hands/week, period. then when they move up they can play less hands and make more money.

anyone smart enough to make a living is going to be smart enough to build a bankroll when moving up even one level (from 100 to 200) can drastically improve their $/hr.

[Hoopster81]

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and they havent moved up because...?

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bankroll requirements?

[Sephus]

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and they havent moved up because...?

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bankroll requirements?

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ok well like i said if theyve been there longer than a couple weeks they need to either find a way spend less or play more, because the opportunity cost of staying at nl100 vs moving up is huge. i expect a pro to know this, which is why i expect very few pros at nl100, and virtually zero who are there long-term.

[Hoopster81]

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ok well like i said if theyve been there longer than a couple weeks they need to either find a way spend less or play more, because the opportunity cost of staying at nl100 vs moving up is huge. i expect a pro to know this, which is why i expect very few pros at nl100, and virtually zero who are there long-term.

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Certianly most are not there for the long term, but I started out at NL50 when I was playing as my only source of income and next month will be at NL 200, but I will make 5-6K this month through profit&rakeback playing almost exclusively at NL100.