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set K\'s and coordinated board on river
Bodog 2/4
SB is not particularly aggressive, I've only shown down strong hands 5 limpers, SB completes, I raise from BB with KK, all call flop xKJ rainbow, SB checks, I bet, 3 callers including SB turn 10 completes rainbow, I bet, 2 folds, SB calls river A, SB checks, Hero ??? |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
bet/call
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
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bet/call [/ QUOTE ] What do you think a non-aggressive SB is check-raising with on this river that we're behind? OP doesn't give a very detailed description - but from what it sounds like this is the kind of player that will: - check/call with pair and 2-pair hands - donk-bet a Q fearing that Hero is going to check-behind - Villian might c/r a straight but, definitely isn't check-raising anything that Hero beats - again because the board is just as scary for Villian. Value Bet, Fold to a checkraise. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
If he has a Q for the straight, sometime he'll lead the river and sometimes he'll check/raise. Once he checks, it's statistically more likely he doesn’t have it. So it’s a bet on the river.
The only question is whether or not you should call a check/raise. I think you do need to call a raise because could be bluffing (rare) or have made 2-pair with AK, AJ, AT, Ax. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
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[ QUOTE ] bet/call [/ QUOTE ] What do you think a non-aggressive SB is check-raising with on this river that we're behind? OP doesn't give a very detailed description - but from what it sounds like this is the kind of player that will: - check/call with pair and 2-pair hands - donk-bet a Q fearing that Hero is going to check-behind - Villian might c/r a straight but, definitely isn't check-raising anything that Hero beats - again because the board is just as scary for Villian. Value Bet, Fold to a checkraise. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
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The only question is whether or not you should call a check/raise. I think you do need to call a raise because could be bluffing (rare) or have made 2-pair with AK, AJ, AT, Ax. [/ QUOTE ] This is obviously VERY player dependant. However, If we're talking about a typical passive 2/4 player, or an unknown 2/4 player who seems passive, we should not be calling a check/raise on this river card. This type of player is not making that play with anything less than a Queen. In fact, part of the reason this is an easy value bet is that many times Villian will not checkraise when he does hold the Queen. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
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[ QUOTE ] The only question is whether or not you should call a check/raise. I think you do need to call a raise because could be bluffing (rare) or have made 2-pair with AK, AJ, AT, Ax. [/ QUOTE ] This is obviously VERY player dependant. However, If we're talking about a typical passive 2/4 player, or an unknown 2/4 player who seems passive, we should not be calling a check/raise on this river card. This type of player is not making that play with anything less than a Queen. In fact, part of the reason this is an easy value bet is that many times Villian will not checkraise when he does hold the Queen. [/ QUOTE ] It’s 13-1 to call a check/raise on the river. I’d want a better read than, “not particularly aggressive” before I fold there. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
SB CRd the river, I thought for a moment and thought 2-pair was likely enough to make a crying call given the odds at that point. He showed QT for the str8 - bleh!
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
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It’s 13-1 to call a check/raise on the river. I’d want a better read than, “not particularly aggressive” before I fold there. [/ QUOTE ] This is a good reason why players like yourself are probably not winning as much as you could be. Just beacuse you're getting 13-to-1 here is not a good reason to call. Look at the board. Recall how Villian has played the previous streets. Recall that Hero has only shown-down quality hands. Realize that this board looks just as scary to a Villian as it does to Hero. This Villian is NOT checkraising with less than the nuts here. |
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Re: set K\'s and coordinated board on river
bet and call a c/r because two pair is highly possible
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