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Call the Flop? with AK and no help?
SHould i of called the flop bet here?
Chances are it didn't help anyone.... Anyway i could of gotten away from this disaster? 5+.50 27 man on stars PokerStars Game #3316886931: Tournament #16427257, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/12 - 20:16:00 (ET) Table '16427257 2' Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: suecurley (1060 in chips) Seat 2: bick31 (1740 in chips) Seat 3: Smooth17 (1440 in chips) Seat 4: LondonPark (1950 in chips) Seat 5: Steelers 511 (1200 in chips) Seat 6: Parax (1460 in chips) Seat 7: gtwhale (1480 in chips) Seat 8: number26 (1550 in chips) Seat 9: jempeb (1620 in chips) gtwhale: posts small blind 10 number26: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Parax [Kh Ad] jempeb: folds suecurley: calls 20 bick31: folds Smooth17: folds LondonPark: calls 20 Steelers 511: folds Parax: raises 60 to 80 gtwhale: folds number26: calls 60 suecurley: calls 60 LondonPark: folds *** FLOP *** [9s 2c 3d] number26: bets 60 suecurley: folds Parax: calls 60 *** TURN *** [9s 2c 3d] [Kd] number26: bets 100 Parax: raises 100 to 200 number26: calls 100 *** RIVER *** [9s 2c 3d Kd] [Kc] number26: checks Parax: bets 80 number26: raises 120 to 200 Parax: calls 120 Results Below <font color="white">*** SHOW DOWN *** number26: shows [Ks 9h] (a full house, Kings full of Nines) Parax: mucks hand number26 collected 1190 from pot </font> |
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Re: Call the Flop? with AK and no help?
In a 5+.50 I would have raised more than 60 before the flop with AK and 2 limpers. I probably would have raised 100 or so.
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Re: Call the Flop? with AK and no help?
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In a 5+.50 I would have raised more than 60 before the flop with AK and 2 limpers. I probably would have raised 100 or so. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, it was still early in the tournament, so you had no betting pattern established. You bet the "conventional wisdom" 3X. The trouble with that is three-fold: 1) Because it IS conventional wisdom, everyone knows it. 2) It implies a reasonably strong hand, not Big Slick so, in effect, you were slow playing without being sure of having the nuts. 3) Since it WAS early, 3X is peanuts compared to stacks and has little or no effect. Opening bets should be varied. Sometimes 2X sometimes 3X, sometimes up to 6X, but mostly 3-5X. I don't think your initial bet was the problem. The problem was that he flopped a pair, with second highest kicker. He should have bet subtantially more at that point (say about a third to a half the pot) and you should have folded then, instead, he slow played (or played scared which is my assumption). When the K dropped, he had you. In his place I would have taken you all in at that point. You were destined to lose money here. Had the nine come on the turn, and the K on the flop... ah well! |
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