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Re: Cut Back Starting Hands When Frequent Cold Callers are Behind You?
i usually wont attempt to steal from SB/BB if they are around 40VPIP+.
Although as D5 said, if they give up easily on flop when they miss to a raise... Ill fire away with raises. So a 45/15/1.5 guy who likes to call down ill generally avoid stealing with marginal hands. never thought about the whole SB thing, BB is more likly to call is Sb limps... Hmm. Overlooked that! |
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Re: Cut Back Starting Hands When Frequent Cold Callers are Behind You?
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never thought about the whole SB thing, BB is more likly to call is Sb limps... Hmm. Overlooked that! [/ QUOTE ] That's one of the things that King Yao talks about in his SH section in Weighing the odds. He says you should very rarely just call a raise in the SB because you're giving BB odds to see a lot more hands and if you notice someone doing this you should try to sit to his left to take advantage of this. |
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Re: Cut Back Starting Hands When Frequent Cold Callers are Behind You?
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[ QUOTE ] never thought about the whole SB thing, BB is more likly to call is Sb limps... Hmm. Overlooked that! [/ QUOTE ] That's one of the things that King Yao talks about in his SH section in Weighing the odds. He says you should very rarely just call a raise in the SB because you're giving BB odds to see a lot more hands and if you notice someone doing this you should try to sit to his left to take advantage of this. [/ QUOTE ] Ah sweet, I own this book but i read the first few chapters and thought it was a bit of a SSH paraphrasing. I'll have to pick it up tonight and read it then. Along with TOP..HOH... HOH2...psychology... way to much reading and to little time. |
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Re: Cut Back Starting Hands When Frequent Cold Callers are Behind You?
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Ah sweet, I own this book but i read the first few chapters and thought it was a bit of a SSH paraphrasing. [/ QUOTE ] Ed Miller wrote a review on it actually saying it was a great complement to SSH. |
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Re: Cut Back Starting Hands When Frequent Cold Callers are Behind You?
From Ed:
[ QUOTE ] King Yao's book: Excellent. The author has a very clear understanding of the game, and it covers well some areas we neglected in SSH. My favorite parts are how he breaks down where your EV comes from and shows you how changing your assumptions about the situation change your calculations and sometimes your conclusions. The "If you have the best hand 15% of the time, then EV=blah... but if you have the best hand 35% of the time, then EV=blah," stuff is really important. It's how the really good players (at least 2+2-type players) tend to think, and it's explained lucidly in Yao's book. I only wish Yao had kept his original title. BTW, I read a couple of threads where people compare Yao's book to SSH. I really think it's apples and oranges. They both cover counting outs and equity and so forth, but then they really branch off. SSH is about adopting a winning philosophy, and then applying that philosophy in a case study (loose opponents). It tells a cohesive story, but doesn't emphasize how things change when the assumptions change. Yao's book does the opposite. It's short on story and philosophy, but long on describing how different variables affect your decision-making. I think both books should be read by anyone aspiring to play limit hold 'em seriously, and neither book is in any way a replacement for the other. [/ QUOTE ] http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post2797170 |
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